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The Two Americas Have Grown Much Fiercer
The Wall Street Journal ^ | March 28, 2019 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 05/25/2019 9:55:55 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican

Sometimes you write about the most obvious thing in the world because it is the most important thing. Reaction to the outcome of Robert Mueller’s investigation shows Americans again how divided we are. If you are more or less of the left, you experienced the probe as a search for truth that would restore the previous world of politics. Instead the traitor got away with it and you feel destabilized, deflated. If you are of the Trumpian right, it was from the beginning an attempted coup, the establishment using everything it had to remove a force it could not defeat at the polls. You are energized, elated.

Now both sides will settle down, with the left as forthcoming in its defeat as the right is forbearing in its victory. I just wanted to show you my fantasy life. The Trump forces will strike with a great pent-up anger, and the left will never let go.

Both sides will be intensely human. And inhuman. Because the past few years the character of our political divisions has changed, and this must be noted again. People are proud of their bitterness now. Old America used to accept our splits as part of the price of being us—numerous, varied, ornery. Current America, with its moderating institutions (churches) going down and its dividing institutions (the internet) rising, sees our polarization not as something to be healed but a reason for being, something to get up for. There’s a finality to it, a war-to-the-death quality.

It is shocking, and I say this as a person always generally unshocked by American political division. When I was a kid we came together as a nation when John F. Kennedy died and manned rockets went up, but after that it was pretty much turmoil—Vietnam, demonstrations, Watergate.

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I think the likely scenario to happen in America is the Spanish Civil War. We'll probably see the Loyalists (Left) fight the Nationalists (Right) in a generation or so from now. The timing is perfect, it'll be 100 year anniversary of the Spanish Civil War (1939).
1 posted on 05/25/2019 9:55:55 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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I think it starts much sooner.


2 posted on 05/25/2019 9:58:07 AM PDT by rdl6989
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“Two Americas” is a shopworn liberal talking point.

There’s one America, and there’s a metastasizing cancer.


3 posted on 05/25/2019 10:04:19 AM PDT by proust (Justice delayed is injustice.)
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“ If you are of the Trumpian right...”

The “Trumpian right”?

That would be, living in the real world. Facts.

Ms. Noonan, you can do a lot better than that.


4 posted on 05/25/2019 10:04:39 AM PDT by stanne
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I’m not sure how it would play out, to be frank. Only one side has the guns and most of the emotional support (but not the armaments) of the military (that’s our side), and the communists have the globalists and the enemy armies on their side.


5 posted on 05/25/2019 10:04:50 AM PDT by GOP Congress
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If a Democrat gets elected over Trump in 2020 — and it could happen given the way the Democrats game the electoral system in many states — the Democrats will strike out at us with a fury. The gloves will come off and I expect the Dems will get penned up pretty quickly in a few major coastal cities like the Spanish Loyalists did. And the cities of the 21st Century will collapse much more quickly than the cities of the 20th did.


6 posted on 05/25/2019 10:04:53 AM PDT by Tallguy (Facts be d*mned! The narrative of the day must be preserved!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Peggy Noonan is a dolt. It’s why she writes for WSJ


7 posted on 05/25/2019 10:05:01 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/10/a-brief-history-of-everyone-who-ever-lived/537942/

An interesting read if you have a few minutes. Expounds about
the world formation but an interesting read on the Americas. IMO.


8 posted on 05/25/2019 10:05:45 AM PDT by deport
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Have always enjoyed reading Peggy Noonan since the days of the Gipper.

She has a gift of using words that paint an accurate picture.

I, too, fear for the Republic and have for many decades now.
I am not quite sure the open violence will wait until 2039 to begin though.

If the lefties keep accosting (milkshakes or whatever) conservatives it won’t be long before a conservative or group thereof respond with instruments that do much more damage than ruining a suit.


9 posted on 05/25/2019 10:07:31 AM PDT by ImpBill (A Party-less little "L" libertarian. Republicrats/Democans-A pox on both Party's!)
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So the Hussein Heads at WSJ are telling us that Trump is as bad as his enemies.

NO SALE you Pieces of Obama, FOAD!!!!


10 posted on 05/25/2019 10:07:38 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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We'll probably see the Loyalists (Left) fight the Nationalists (Right) in a generation or so from now.

Sooner than that. You can't safely walk the streets in many places while wearing a MAGA hat. It'll be ten percent of the population that fights, be armed and ready (despite laws against being armed) because you don't know when you'll encounter those ten percent.

11 posted on 05/25/2019 10:08:48 AM PDT by roadcat
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She canshove her Trumpian slam up her wazoo.

If you are an Obamunist you believe it when Master Obama says he never had a single scandal in his administration

Crooked Commies at the head of the FBI and CIA.

Get outta here


12 posted on 05/25/2019 10:09:57 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Has anyone found a way around the WSJ paywall? Outline doesn’t work there.


13 posted on 05/25/2019 10:10:18 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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Rich Americans could buy tax free or low tax enclaves from foreign countries.

Another possibility is pay American tax rates for ten years and no further taxation thereafter.


14 posted on 05/25/2019 10:10:26 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Two sides grown fiercer? No. Our side has nowhere to back up to anymore. 50 odd years of it and here we are...


15 posted on 05/25/2019 10:11:25 AM PDT by TalBlack (Damn right I'll "do something" you fat, balding son of a bitch!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I proposed creating new and independent countries out of the United States, which could have been done by simply majority votes in Congress.


16 posted on 05/25/2019 10:14:43 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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If you are the Left you are blah, blah, blah. . .if you are the right you are blah, blah, blah, if you are Peggy Noonan you are an empty-headed aging columnist who once wrote a few good speeches for Reagan and is trying desperately to remain relevant on the Swamp cocktail circuit. BOR-RING!!! This column must have been written 3000 times by 3000 other geniuses since 1990.


17 posted on 05/25/2019 10:15:21 AM PDT by McBuff (To be, rather than to seem)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Enticing people to hate each other can be profitable


18 posted on 05/25/2019 10:15:25 AM PDT by jcon40 (The other post before yours really nails it for me. I have been a DOithS / PC guy forever and alway)
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To: MinorityRepublican

We have all of the guns all the ammunition and all the aim

Good luck leftist morons


19 posted on 05/25/2019 10:16:06 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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And you, Saint Peggy, sit in the middle, deploring all this ugliness and division. Please tell us, wise lady, what shall we do? It surely is not the fault of those who would end the US as we know it, right?


20 posted on 05/25/2019 10:16:34 AM PDT by Defiant (I hope the Russians trick me into voting for Trump again in 2020.)
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