Skip to comments.A progressive view on the Second Amendment
Posted on 06/17/2019 6:22:59 AM PDT by rktman
Thom Hartmann has just published a new book entitled The Hidden History of Guns and the Second Amendment. Thom is a progressive radio host, and he is brilliant. If I could only live in his mind for 10 minutes, I would forever be happy.
Before you turn off at the sound of progressive, understand Thom is a great historian; and no matter where you fall on the Second Amendment, there is plenty you can learn about the history of gun ownership in the U.S.
Hartmann goes on to talk about the election of 2016, an election most of us were able to vote in. Near the polling places, people were holding guns, showing that they had a right to carry. He says, Its hardly surprising that open carry has become the new white hood (referring to what we know as the Ku Klux Klan).
He wisely points out that even the kind of paint used on childrens toys is regulated, but we have not done anything to regulate guns. You can be pro-Second Amendment and pro-gun, but you should read Thom Hartmanns book to get the full history. It is well researched and can help anyones understanding of how we got here and what we can do about it.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Straw man argument. We regulate the paint on childrens toys because children put toys in their mouths. An overzealous government is the main reason for the 2nd. Why would we want the very ones we defend against regulating our defense against them? We wouldnt, thats why.
I have listened to thom on the radio once or twice. IMHO so the anyone else who has heard him wont feel baffled too. He talks like someone that intelligence was wasted on.
Horse Hockey. Firearms are THE most regulated industry in the US.
It's the "same-old, same-old" BS.
Truly nothing new under the Sun with that crowd.
An argument that starts with a lie has no foundation in fact. Guns must be serialized (by regulation). A test identification bullet is on file (by regulation). The possession of automatic weapons is controlled (by regulation). Background checks exist (by regulation). I could go on and on, but I think I have made my point.
Summary - the 2nd amendment is racist
Ah, it’s Ellen Ratner and her ludicrous dye job.
You recall Ellen - she repeatedly informed us all that John Kerry would coast to victory in 2004.
You can trust her.
The National Firearms Act of 1934.
The Gun Control Act of 1968.
The Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986.
The Assault Weaopn Ban of 1994.
Not to mention the myriad of state and local gun laws and bans, including those in California, New York (State and City,) Connecticut, Delaware, Rhode Island, and Massachusetts.
No, we haven't done anything to regulate guns.
So,Tom....a Constitutional amendment is the answer.But fear not,pal...38 state legislatures will be a piece of cake given the universal clamor for a gun free nation that you claim exists!
He wisely points out that even the kind of paint used on childrens toys is regulated, but we have not done anything to regulate guns.
Bull****. There are thousands of laws and regulations covering firearms in America. I have a Federal C&R license and the ATF used to send me a book every time I renewed it. It was the size of the old Sears catalogs.
It comes on a CD now.
[[[but we have not done anything to regulate guns]]]
LOL 20,000+ gun laws later and calls for everything from smart guns which don’t work to calls for outright confiscation......
“Why, he asks (and properly so), cant these three principals be used with guns? “
Simple - because it’s NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION that ownership of cars CANNOT BE INFRINGED! Author should look up the meaning of “infringed” - i.e., hindered in any way at all (MY definition).
Adding requirements like vehicles have is hindering ownership.....
Cannot believe WND allowed this article......
“That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.” - Declaration
“And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood, they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers or whatever else was at hand? ... The organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...we didn’t love freedom enough and even more we had no awareness of the real situation..., we purely and simply deserved everything, that happened afterward.” - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.
Thhhhomm Hartmann is a genuine moron. I remember one day some years ago that I had some time to kill and called into his radio show to ask him what would be the maximal tax rate anyone should pay before he’d consider it too much. I also asked him if he thought at all about the impact on whether people would consider the cost benefit to paying it versus quitting and living off public assistance. He would not give a straight answer to either question.
I thought about reading it, but the author tipped his hand with this last little phrase:
“It is well researched and can help anyones understanding of how we got here and what we can do about it.”
More empty-headed, pearl-clutching, beta male pantywaist whining.
Article yes, book no. As I said, based Ellen’s
comments, thom the “brilliant”, not so much.
Before 1934 guns were largely unregulated, the way the Constitution intended.
Since then, it has been one infringement after another.
Test “ID” bullet? Several firearms I know of have a “test round” fired but not sure that it’s an “ID” bullet. Clarification someone? Beuhler-——?
A similar article keeps popping up on my Google front page. There is apparently a new campaign to push the narrative that the Second Amendment is inherently racist and was intended to allow whites to oppress blacks and kill Indians.
When someone is this desperate to disarm you, it doesnt take a lot of imagination to guess what they plan to do after they succeed.
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