[itsahoot]

I think President Trump is using “proportionate” in the sense that if they kill no one, we don’t kill them...if they do kill, even a single American, the clearing smoke will be filled with keening and wailing....

It is just another Red Line. My mom never threatened me with, "you wait until your father gets home," she just ripped a switch off the willow tree and got down to business. Attitudes were appropriately adjusted, no waiting required.

[trebb]

I’d say thrashing a wayward id and deploying a massive military operation are different enough to be irrelevant...plus, your Mom didn’t have whole neighborhoods divide over whether or not she should thrash you or let you become a delinquent - and all have a say over whether she stayed your Mom or had you wrested away and given to those in the loony bin to raise.