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Trump’s Trade War With China Is Already Changing the World
The Atlantic ^ | Jun 25, 2019 | Michael Schuman

Posted on 06/26/2019 11:41:30 AM PDT by Zhang Fei

Terry Gou, of Taiwan’s Foxconn, which makes Apple gear in Chinese factories, recently said he would urge Apple to produce outside of China.

Other lesser-known companies such as Giant Manufacturing, the world’s largest bicycle maker, have already shifted production for U.S. customers. Giant has moved the manufacture of many U.S.-bound models to its home base in Taiwan, and is opening a new factory in Hungary. “The world is no longer flat,” Giant’s chairwoman, Bonnie Tu, told Bloomberg.

These are far from isolated cases: A survey released in May by two branches of the American Chamber of Commerce in China revealed that about 40 percent of respondents said they have relocated or are considering moving manufacturing operations out of China.

This process has been underway for some time, due to rising costs in China and other factory. American toymaker Hasbro says it has been steadily reducing the share of products sold in the U.S. that are made in China, from 80 percent in 2012 to 67 percent at the end of 2018, and plans to shrink that further in coming years. But the trade war has compelled chief executives to step on the gas. “What companies are doing is accelerating their plans to move out of China,” Stephen Lamar, executive vice president of the American Apparel & Footwear Association, told me. He calls it a “generational shift” in how U.S. companies are sourcing their products.

For some countries, that comes as good news. Businesses looking to shift assembly lines from China tend to target other emerging economies as a new base. Modern economic history tells us that the jobs created by such factories in poor countries can jumpstart economic growth and alleviate poverty (as happened in China itself). Already places such as Vietnam have benefited by siphoning factories away from China.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apple; china; foxconn; iphone; maga; taiwan; terrygou; trade; trump
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Production is moving to countries that do not have nukes aimed at American cities.
1 posted on 06/26/2019 11:41:30 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Zhang Fei

The pressure on COMMUNISM is great. The beauty of capitalism and freedom.


2 posted on 06/26/2019 11:43:11 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Zhang Fei

I still am astonished that only a few ever analyse China as a hostile nation. I guess so much is invested that everyone, from Democrats to Republicans, have too much to lose. But they are quick to condemn Russia, a nation 1/10th size of China, that really is not screwing the US over economically.

I say this as a Canadian, who liberal party is the and always has been the hand maiden of the ChiComs. But it seems little better in the US>


3 posted on 06/26/2019 11:45:39 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Foxconn Tells Apple To Leave China

Foxconn Tells Apple To Leave China

4 posted on 06/26/2019 11:50:40 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Sam Gamgee
“But they are quick to condemn Russia, a nation 1/10th size of China, that really is not screwing the US over economically.”

Russia would screw us over economically if it could, but the cold hard fact of the matter is that Russia has a minuscule economy. Many much smaller countries have economies that are larger that Russia's. Sometimes I think that producing new weapons of war is about the only thing that keeps Russia from a financial collapse. Russia is belicose $hit hole of a country.

5 posted on 06/26/2019 12:04:50 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Sam Gamgee

Libertarians have infected this web site as well the GOPe in general. they have no allegiance to any nation or creed except GREED. The will trade with the devil so shave 2 cents on the dollar.


6 posted on 06/26/2019 12:08:58 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Zhang Fei
Not much noise about China wanting Taiwan back lately either. They know it is their goose which lays the golden egg. If the Chicoms were smart, they would:
  1. Adopt the flag of Taiwan (originally designed by Dr. Sun Yat Sen, if memory serves me correctly).
  2. Organize a Chinese Commonwealth based on the old British Commonwealth of Nations model.
  3. Encourage each region to develop more autonomy, especially Shanghai.
  4. Unilaterally announce that Hong Kong was going to be given a choice between voting for independence or another 100 years of the one nation/two systems promise they were give.
  5. Then, finally, they would invite places like Singapore and Taiwan to join. Maybe even places like Malaysia, where ethnic Chinese are a minority but still run the economy.

7 posted on 06/26/2019 12:11:14 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys all aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: vette6387

Somewhere out on the web is a chart matching various countries economy sizes to the economy of our various states. If memory serves me correctly, I think Russia has an economy about the size of Michigan.


8 posted on 06/26/2019 12:13:45 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys all aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: EagleUSA

“The pressure on COMMUNISM is great. The beauty of capitalism and freedom.”

The point of MAGA was to bring manufacturing jobs home to America.
Why am I supposed to applaud the shifting of jobs from China to Hungary?


9 posted on 06/26/2019 12:14:16 PM PDT by rintintin (q)
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To: central_va

Do tell. I’ve seen all types of Freepers to fag homo supporter and lovers (even the regular long-time Freepers) to NEVER TRUMPERS (they mostly come out with daggers at every border wall thread)


10 posted on 06/26/2019 12:14:20 PM PDT by max americana (Fired libtards from our company & did so happily at every election since 2008. I hope all libs die.)
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To: central_va

So US-based companies are shifting manufacturing jobs from China to other non-US countries. How does that make US manufacturing great again?


11 posted on 06/26/2019 12:17:03 PM PDT by rintintin (q)
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To: Sam Gamgee

Democrats and Republicans have been determined to make China great again.


12 posted on 06/26/2019 12:17:26 PM PDT by granada
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To: max americana

When are these manufacturing jobs going to be shifted back to the US? Shifting them from China to Vietnam or Hungary doesn’t excite me very much. It doesn’t open new factories in those rust belt states that voted for Trump


13 posted on 06/26/2019 12:19:22 PM PDT by rintintin (q)
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To: Vigilanteman

A recent one by the American Enterprise Institute
14 posted on 06/26/2019 12:20:39 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys all aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: granada

Less intellectual property theft.
And presumably some of the manufacturing will be re-onshored.


15 posted on 06/26/2019 12:23:47 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Sam Gamgee

This Atlantic article only tells some of the story. As most leftist media does these days it tells only what it wants to and uses the rest of the story to attack President Trump. In reality like many things Trump has seen the changes in the world manufacturing supply chains and used it to an advantage. China had become to costly and manufacturers were looking to move on to less costly locations to set up shop in. China feels the pain as its people end up out of work. As the Hong Kong protests show all is not well in China.


16 posted on 06/26/2019 12:24:01 PM PDT by Destroyer Sailor (Revenge is a dish best served cold. Z)
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To: Sam Gamgee

[But they are quick to condemn Russia, a nation 1/10th size of China, that really is not screwing the US over economically.]


The Russians basically started WWII by allying with the Nazis. They were gearing up to stab the Nazis in the back when the Nazis struck first with Operation Barbarossa. They also killed 100K Americans by proxy during the Cold War, by training, supplying, feeding and funding North Korea and North Vietnam. Putin isn’t sending nuclear bombers right up to Alaska’s air space because Russia is a friendly power. Russia is almost the size of Canada and the US combined. To say that it needs more space is ludicrous. And yet the Russians have annexed parts of Georgia and Ukraine in the past decade.

The Cold War was an aberration, a time when countries lined up into two broad coalitions. In normal times, you can have more than one enemy. This is one of those times.


17 posted on 06/26/2019 12:26:06 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: rintintin

One issue at a time and baby steps. Taking money away from China was the first step. They are the enemy. Let’s keep doing that first and bringing back jobs to America will come next..


18 posted on 06/26/2019 12:32:42 PM PDT by max americana (Fired libtards from our company & did so happily at every election since 2008. I hope all libs die.)
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Using the most generous calculation using purchase power parity (PPP), which is also the more realistic, then Russia has an economy the size of California, Nevada, Utah and Arizona combined. If you compare just nominal GDP in $ terms, then it is smaller than, but most comparable to, New York.


19 posted on 06/26/2019 12:34:46 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys all aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: max americana

“ bringing back jobs to America will come next..”

Trump talked about bringing factories back to Ohio and Pennsylvania. Freepers are cheering when the factories are going to Thailand instead. That ain’t going to get him a lot of votes from the Rust Belt


20 posted on 06/26/2019 12:39:24 PM PDT by rintintin (q)
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