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Rand Paul signals support for Red Flags
Yahoo news ^ | 8/13/2019 | AP

Posted on 08/13/2019 11:32:24 AM PDT by RandFan

Paul, a strong gun-rights advocate, signaled his willingness to support something along the lines of "red flag" laws that allow guns to be removed from those who may be a danger to themselves and others.

"I'm not opposed to sort of an emergency order for 48 hours and then you get a hearing in a court where you get the full due-process protections," he said in the interview. "It's the one thing that could fix a lot of stuff. I think most of these homicidal attackers ... are sending off signals to their family and community."

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: banglist; gunreform; randpaul; redflag; redflags
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THIS IS AN IMMEDIATE ACTION ALERT

DON'T LET RAND DO THIS!

CALL HIS OFFICE NOW:

Office Locations

167 Russell Senate Office Building Washington DC, 20510 Phone: 202-224-4343

Main State Office 1029 State Street Bowling Green, KY 42101 Phone: 270-782-8303

1 posted on 08/13/2019 11:32:24 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

lindsay Graham does too- claims the 2n’d amendment isn’t a ‘suicide pact’ whatever the hell that is supposed to mean

Look Rinos in government- the left do not even respect the constitution, and you think they will respect ‘strong protections for due process’ once the red flag laws get passed thanks to gullible dorks like you all?


2 posted on 08/13/2019 11:35:29 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: RandFan

Have conservatives and libertarians as short sighted as that? really?


3 posted on 08/13/2019 11:35:49 AM PDT by arthurus (sfgx v x..!-=_+)
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To: RandFan

He, of all people, should know that if people are “sending off signals@ then that’s legally “conspiracy to commit” and people can be arrested on that basis via due process.

And the red flags wouldn’t have stopped him from being attacked either because his attackers family backed him up.


4 posted on 08/13/2019 11:35:51 AM PDT by Skywise
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To: Bob434

Graham’s bill is a gun grabbers charter. They will SWAT people for their guns. I’m not kidding.


5 posted on 08/13/2019 11:37:17 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: Bob434

The only reason the GOP-e Senators are coming out of hiding is they have the votes to pass this monstrosity.
Linda is pushing it and lying to GOP leadership.


6 posted on 08/13/2019 11:37:36 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: RandFan

I’d like to see no Red Flag law.

But if they do impose a 48-hr rule (or whatever) and the targeted person gets their day in court, with full due process, and is found harmless and competent to own a gun, then I would like the original instigator of the “emergency” to be fined $50,000 directly payable to the victimized gun owner. Seems only fair.


7 posted on 08/13/2019 11:37:38 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: RandFan
FIRST - There will be NO FEDERAL Red-Flag bill!!!

SECOND - No matter what the bill at the National level says about "Due Process", when it is implemented at the State Level, THERE WILL BE NO DUE PROCESS!!!!

THIRD - NO CONFISCATED WEAPON WILL EVER BE RETURNED!!!

8 posted on 08/13/2019 11:39:02 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: RandFan

Almost every state in the union has in place a law for judicial commitment, akin to Florida’s Baker Act.

We need nut control, not more gun control.


9 posted on 08/13/2019 11:39:04 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds)
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To: RandFan

I actually think the “red flag” concept, if done right, is a solution that could actually work to avoid these sorts of things. Of course, it would have to include safeguards that:
1. Apply stiff penalties to anyone who tries to frivolously red flag someone.
2. Still put the burden of proof on those supporting the removal of guns from the person flagged.
3. As Rand said, it is only temporary until the person gets their “day in court” to make it permanent or long term.

One of the strengths of this concept is that it is not a blanket law. It only affects individuals that allegedly cross a line.


10 posted on 08/13/2019 11:39:07 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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To: RandFan

A big problem with this is they will start looking for so-called red flags.


11 posted on 08/13/2019 11:39:42 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: ClearCase_guy

We already have state laws for judicial commitment. And those laws cover people who are imminent threats no matter the weapon of choice.


12 posted on 08/13/2019 11:40:11 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds)
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To: arthurus

There’s not a politician out there who would not be happy to see the citizenry dis-armed.


13 posted on 08/13/2019 11:40:19 AM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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To: cuban leaf

We saw what happened with FISA.....


14 posted on 08/13/2019 11:41:13 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: ClearCase_guy

that’ll never happen- and forcing people to go to court because someone makes false accusations, which will happen a LOT if red flag laws are passed- puts a huge burden financially on people that likely will not be able to afford it, they will get crappy representation, and likely lose-

The risk of red flag laws is just too great- our constitution never envisioned such nonsense-


15 posted on 08/13/2019 11:41:15 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: RandFan

Sending a signal like a post on Facebook.

Use the word “Christian”, get banned and swatted.


16 posted on 08/13/2019 11:42:09 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: fruser1

Yep and as bob says due process is a joke, no one will afford the lawyers etc.

light up Rand’s office switchboard...

COME ON FREEPERS, WE CAN DO THIS!


17 posted on 08/13/2019 11:43:53 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: cuban leaf

If they are so dangerous why not commit them?

So you take away the guns and they run a car up a curb or jump off a bridge.

The only red flag here is that the law is focused on the gun not the person.


18 posted on 08/13/2019 11:44:24 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: RandFan

If Rand likes it you know there’s kickback money.


19 posted on 08/13/2019 11:44:35 AM PDT by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects; starve the bastards)
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To: cuban leaf

[[2. Still put the burden of proof on those supporting the removal of guns from the person flagged.]]

Nope- when someone wants to frame someone, they will invent ‘evidence’ against the person- too many innocent peopel will be jailed, then labelled a felon

The red flag laws can not work- we already have laws that designate truly mentally ill people too dangerous to own guns, but the standard is much higher now- once red flag laws get enacted, this standard of proof will be lowered- a lot- democrats are out to confiscate guns AND turn law abiding citizens into felons-

3: As Rand said, it is only temporary until the person gets their “day in court” to make it permanent or long term.

Many people can’t afford competent representation-


20 posted on 08/13/2019 11:45:09 AM PDT by Bob434
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