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Democrats frown on targeting gang databases with 'red flag' laws
Washington Examiner ^ | 14 sept 2019 | Susan Ferrechio & Kerry Picket

Posted on 09/14/2019 8:57:18 AM PDT by rellimpank

House Democrats this week advanced a new measure to encourage states to pass “red flag” laws, known as extreme risk protection orders, that authorize removing guns and ammunition from dangerous individuals.

Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee amended the measure during a Wednesday mark-up to authorize the federal government to issue extreme risk protection orders in some instances, but they rejected an amendment that would have red-flagged anyone who law enforcement lists as a gang member.

“The majority of violent crime, including gun violence, in the United States is linked to gangs,” Rep. Ken Buck, a Colorado Republican who sponsored the amendment, said Wednesday. “My amendment is quite simple. It would allow the issuance of a red flag order against anyone whose name appears in a gang database if there was probable cause to include that individual in the database.”

Democrats objected, with reasons that sounded very familiar to Republicans.

GOP lawmakers have staunchly opposed “No Fly, No Buy” proposals Democrats have tried to pass in the House in recent years because the lists flag the wrong people

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; gangs; redflag; redflaglaws; rkba
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1 posted on 09/14/2019 8:57:18 AM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

Just keep flushing them out.


2 posted on 09/14/2019 8:59:20 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: rellimpank

Democrats standing up for criminals again I see.


3 posted on 09/14/2019 8:59:37 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: rellimpank

Well yeah. The gangs might fight back. Law abiding folks are much easier to deal with.


4 posted on 09/14/2019 8:59:40 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: rellimpank

Ha haaaa! THAT’S the way to do it. Target FredocRAT constituents.


5 posted on 09/14/2019 9:00:10 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: rellimpank

Holy moley.

So this means, that the street gangs who perpetrate so much gun violence, would be exempt from any legislation on this subject??? Really????


6 posted on 09/14/2019 9:00:33 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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7 posted on 09/14/2019 9:01:22 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Actually, no. Law-abiding citizens will put up a fight and will coordinate their efforts with one another. Gang members will be randomly targeted because the Left knows who they are and most of them will willingly give up their guns in the name of “peace.” They have no concept of the 2nd Amendment and tyrannical government.


8 posted on 09/14/2019 9:02:00 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: rellimpank
“My amendment is quite simple. It would allow the issuance of a red flag order against anyone whose name appears in a gang database if there was probable cause to include that individual in the database.”

Nobody should ever lose their Constitutional rights because their name was put on a list without due process.

The definition of "gang member" or "terrorist" can be expanded quite easily.

9 posted on 09/14/2019 9:02:41 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: rellimpank

Dammit Republicans! What more do you want!? RUN with this!


10 posted on 09/14/2019 9:02:55 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: rellimpank

Insane.


11 posted on 09/14/2019 9:03:34 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Also LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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To: rellimpank

Gang bangers are a special demographic of gun owners that probably lean to the left so they will be exempted from gun laws to the extent it’s feasible. It’s predictable given that gun laws are intended by the Democrats to punish political opponents but really have nothing to do with public safety.


12 posted on 09/14/2019 9:04:53 AM PDT by Spok
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Free Republic could be considered a gang


13 posted on 09/14/2019 9:04:57 AM PDT by dsrtsage (Complexity is merely simplicity lacking imagination)
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To: Drew68
The definition of "gang member" or "terrorist" can be expanded quite easily.

San Fransicko wants to call the NRA a terrorist group.

The so called SPLC has labeled a good number of conservative groups as "hate" groups. Doesn't take much to change "hate" to "terrorist".

I have no doubt the dims, IF they ever got margins like they had in 2008, would so move to change those "hate" labels to "terrorist" labels.

14 posted on 09/14/2019 9:06:17 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The street gangs are the modern day Democrat KKK. The street gangs will terrorize the Republicans and bully them into shape to further the socialist agenda. The Republicans must get rid of their ability to defend themselves in order for a true Dictatorship of Socialism to effectively govern the slave state.


15 posted on 09/14/2019 9:07:29 AM PDT by Trumpet 1 (US Constitution is my guide.)
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To: rellimpank

Undeniable proof their intent isn’t deterring crime or “gun violence”. This is the hill we die on.


16 posted on 09/14/2019 9:07:29 AM PDT by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: rellimpank

Current Democrat Party needs to be politically destroyed by the American voters and totally revamped from top to bottom. Obama laid the groundwork for the sociailist/communist, tyrant, Despot, Dictator, Orwell “Big Brother” (the Democrat Party) to mature and grow, while he directed the activity to get rid of our POTUS, Trump with his criminal cohorts in the DOJ, FBI and National Security sectors!!!

Does anyone really believe that the likes of James Comey, James Clapper & John Brennan, etc. did these criminal acts on their own...never, Obama ordered/authorized them to proceed...folks...the big fish, even bigger then Hillary Clinton was and will always be Barack Hussein Obama & his crimimal, buddy, Joe Biden. End of story!!!

And...the truth will soon surface....the birds will always sing to protect their own behinds!!!


17 posted on 09/14/2019 9:09:43 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)
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To: Rurudyne

Democrats standing up for criminals again I see.


Because criminal gangs are standing up for Democrats - especially at election times. Democrat controlled criminal gangs are the beginning of the well armed army Gen. O envisioned.


18 posted on 09/14/2019 9:10:23 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: rellimpank

They just want a Red Flag law that only applies to gun owners and other conservatives.


19 posted on 09/14/2019 9:10:59 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (Liberals no longer glorify heroic deeds, They glorify whining that they call heroic)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Tyrannical government? Like trying to cancel particular rights? So, I decided when some assclown uses the "well regulated militia" argument, I will respond with, "I'll buy that when you show me where in the constitution the right to an abortion is written. If you can't, then BTFO.". I know they don't care though. 😐
20 posted on 09/14/2019 9:11:09 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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