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To: Zhang Fei

This “Operation” is actually a better data point for my argument than yours. If that “War” was “over in a day” what are we involved in today? It would seem the Iranians never realized they lost a war back then. When a defeated enemy loses an actual war they can’t deny it.


8 posted on 09/16/2019 5:08:34 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

[If that “War” was “over in a day” what are we involved in today? It would seem the Iranians never realized they lost a war back then. When a defeated enemy loses an actual war they can’t deny it.]


For the same reason you get up in the morning and do the same thing that you did yesterday. There is literally no end to these things. It’s just part of life. In antiquity, we’d simply have gone in, killed all the men and sold the women and children into slavery. The fact that we can’t do this today doesn’t mean they’ve stopped being threats, just like the fact that we can’t hang thieves today means we should stop prosecuting people for stealing.

https://www.livius.org/sources/content/diodorus/alexander-sacks-persepolis/


14 posted on 09/16/2019 5:18:35 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: wastoute

“If that “War” was “over in a day” what are we involved in today?”

As military strategist Clauswitz famously said, “War is politics, by other means.”

The Iranian regime hates us (Death to America! has been their signature motto). They have engaged in some level of political contest/warfare against us, since they invaded our embassy and took Americans hostage, as they came to power. They directed the attack on our Marine Barracks in Beirut in 1983, kicking off the modern era of suicide terrorist attacks (they had resorted to extensive suicide operations against Saddam Hussein’s 1980 invasion).

The Shi’ite Twelver Cult that runs Iran, believes that the prophesied apocalyptic final battle to achieve their final victory, establishing Islam (their kind) throughout the world, is now at hand. The highest calling of the faithful during these end times is to initiate the events that will bring about the return of the Hidden Imam (the Mahdi, or Messaiah) from occlusion. They fill bookshelves writing about it.

They continue to develop terrorist capabilities, and nuclear weapons capability - and target them at the USA, Israel and Saudi Arabia.

There is a saying: You can refuse to loan someone money, but if they really want to fight, you have to oblige them.


81 posted on 09/16/2019 10:44:22 AM PDT by BeauBo
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