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Open Carry at Walmart and Fry’s in Arizona: No One Asked to Leave
Ammoland ^ | 16 September, 2019 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 09/18/2019 5:47:25 AM PDT by marktwain

Open Carry at Walmart and Fry's in Arizona: No One Asked to Leave

There is an ongoing thrust by the fanatical pushers for a disarmed population, to enlist corporate America to their cause. Understandably, corporate entities are uneasy about outright support for any political faction; come out strongly on one side or the other, you are potentially alienating 20-30 percent of your customers. The 50% that are not strongly engaged in politics are unlikely to respond.

When it comes to Second Amendment issues, there are about 5 million NRA members and 100 million gun owners. There are about 30 million people that think owning a gun is immoral. The numbers game falls to the Second Amendment, but the Old Media are overwhelmingly hostile to gun ownership.

This puts corporate America in a bind. Several large corporations have yielded to old media pressure and enacted policies that request Americans who are exercising their Second Amendment rights, not to openly carry in their establishments.

In doing so, they are attempting to split the baby without bloodshed. The request is not legally binding. They are not banning firearms from their establishments; they are working a policy to give lip service to the liberal fascists who want to take a fire-ax to the Bill of Rights.

It all seemed pretty inconsequential. In a few months, the policies would be forgotten, and Second Amendment supporters would get back to making incremental strides toward restoring Second Amendment rights.

Confession is good for the soul. I confess I forgot about the controversy.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: attentionho; az; banglist; belongsinbloggers; clickbait; opencarry; walmart
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Most of the time, most people do not notice if a person is openly carrying a holstered pistol.
1 posted on 09/18/2019 5:47:25 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Then again, it’s Arizona.


2 posted on 09/18/2019 5:55:12 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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To: marktwain

I once thought open carry was retarded but am changing my mind. Now I want to have libtards seeing guns everywhere they go. Normalize it.


3 posted on 09/18/2019 5:56:09 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: marktwain

Perspective is important. The “no open carry” rule is just that: A rule. It’s a rule that a private company has on their private property. It is not a law.

This means that you can legally walk into the place open carrying. All they can do is ask you to leave. You don’t run afoul of the law unless they ask you to leave and you don’t.


4 posted on 09/18/2019 5:57:32 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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To: wastoute

I’m kinda torn on normalizing it. I’m reminded of those street scenes in Blackhawk Down, where it was “normalized”.


5 posted on 09/18/2019 5:58:27 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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To: marktwain

Most of their employees don’t follow very many rules anyway. They couldn’t give a sh*t.


6 posted on 09/18/2019 5:58:30 AM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and Americans!)
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To: cuban leaf

I hear you when it comes to “Blackhawk Down” but I also remember Rwanda and when it gets to “Machetes vs ARs” I want to be on the AR team.


7 posted on 09/18/2019 6:04:29 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

When I finished my time in the military in ‘97, I saved up the cash to drive home to Colorado from San Diego through Texas to visit my mom.
When I stopped at a gas station in Arizona to fill up, I saw a whole bunch of people walking around with guns holstered on their hips.

Smiling, I thought, “I love my country.”


8 posted on 09/18/2019 6:06:06 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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To: marktwain
Apparently the reason Walmart is going anti gun is because Micheal "armed guards for me but no guns for thee" Bloomberg is throwing around millions of his dollars.

https://youtu.be/g17C3xB3Tyc

9 posted on 09/18/2019 6:06:55 AM PDT by CtBigPat (Qanon - Please be real...)
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To: marktwain

It’s the pith helmet. Nobody’s gonna mess with a man wearing a pith helmet.


10 posted on 09/18/2019 6:07:27 AM PDT by real saxophonist (Yeah, well, y'know that's just like, uh... your opinion, man.)
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To: cuban leaf
What does it mean to “concealed carry”? In several states, the legal definition is that 75% of the firearm is unobservable. This definition has been used to obtain convictions for illegal concealed carry for something so simple as has having your shirt accidently cover the firearm. So by law and precedent, it is a valid definition.

So how can that be “pushed” in favor of an effort to normalize carrying of a firearm? Given the above, I would assume that a flap holster would meet the legal definition of a concealed firearm. Would walking around wearing a flap holster (which is obvious) still work to normalize the public perception. How would Walmart or other businesses react?

It would be an interesting experiment.

11 posted on 09/18/2019 6:09:07 AM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt - dad's wisdom)
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To: RandallFlagg
“An armed society is a polite society...” ― Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond This Horizon
12 posted on 09/18/2019 6:15:37 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: real saxophonist

And it can be used if one has to take a pith


13 posted on 09/18/2019 6:17:01 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: marktwain

Sounds like it worked out in this instance but recall the article from (about) last week where the guy got hemmed up and trespassed from ALL Wally-World stores because of his open carry.

I’ve never done open carry - the laws of Washington state are so convoluted and contradictory and the attitudes of cops universally unfriendly that I’ve preferred concealed carry.

To me this recent thing with Wally-World is virtue signalling to the sheeple. The problem with virtue signalling is once you start it is almost impossible to stop. Sooner or later someone is going to see your firearm and object, and then there’s going to be a scene. When you start down that road it isn’t you that is in charge of the outcome and that concerns me.

Take care!


14 posted on 09/18/2019 6:19:36 AM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: wastoute

I certainly can’t argue with that.

I actually take this stuff pretty seriously. It’s one reason that, 8 years ago, I moved from Seattle to my “hobby farm” in south central KY. 32 acres with two knobs, two streams, and a natural well.

But if it gets bad enough where we have to worry about guns vs machetes in the streets in this country, it will be “road warrior” time, but with more trees. I really don’t expect that.


15 posted on 09/18/2019 6:19:55 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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To: marktwain

I prefer to carry concealed so if some yahoo enters a store I’m in with Intent to rob it and sees me before I see him. He might decide to take out a possible threat first.


16 posted on 09/18/2019 6:20:11 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: real saxophonist; marktwain
It’s the pith helmet. Nobody’s gonna mess with a man wearing a pith helmet.

That, and Dean's awesome Sam Elliot Tombstone mustache.
17 posted on 09/18/2019 6:21:11 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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To: marktwain

The first rule in security is to not reveal your security measures, lest someone set out to defeat them.


18 posted on 09/18/2019 6:22:37 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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---I will be checking this out in Pahrump, NV in a couple of weeks (as an observer rather than customer) -

-it would previously have been unusual NOT to see an open carrier if you even spent ten minutes in the store--

19 posted on 09/18/2019 6:28:02 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the meda or government sayabout firearms or explosives--)
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To: cuban leaf

Curious. I not only expect it I can’t see how it can be avoided.


20 posted on 09/18/2019 6:29:14 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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