Posted on 10/11/2019 10:45:23 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler
“President Trump is right on Syria!,” according to Johny Messo, the President of the World Council of Arameans (Syriacs) (“WCA”). Withdrawing U.S. troops from Syria and halting financial and arms support to the YPG Kurds may help restore peace and security in Syria. Messo further argues that “the YPG Kurds are responsible for the current escalation in the northeast and that they hold the key for peace in this part of our ancestral homeland.”
1) President Trump made the right decision in withdrawing U.S. forces from Syria to end the “ridiculous endless wars,” fulfilling yet another campaign promise; he already ended the covert CIA program of 2013 to arm the “rebels” in Syria. America’s mission to destroy the Caliphate and military power of ISIS was achieved in March 2019. So there was no cogent reason to stay in Syria, let alone to keep arming the YPG Kurds. Staying rather than leaving would be a greater security threat and burden for America.
2) Trump’s edict may lead to peace, security and stability in Syria. Despite the powerful war narrative and war lobby, Trump shows the world that America chooses peace and jobs at home above wars abroad. If other countries follow suit, primarily those whose foreign policies largely follow America’s course, and stop arming their proxies, violence will soon end. Then one can finally focus on seeking a genuine political solution for Syria, beginning in a few weeks through the UN-facilitated Constitutional Committee.
3) The PKK and the PYD/YPG Kurds, who control the SDF, are two sides of the same coin. The communist ideology and violent nature of these nationalist organizations discredit democratic and liberal values. These ‘heroes’ have oppressed vulnerable Arameans, taken their innocent lives, Kurdified their lands and still use a tiny Christian group as their mouthpiece to represent
(Excerpt) Read more at wca-ngo.org ...
syria’s indigenous aramean people and aramaic language
Truth is the first casualty of war. This age-old truism holds especially true for Syria. Its conflict is difficult to grasp because of its multi-dimensional layers. Many states and non-state actors have directly or indirectly, covertly or overtly, been engaged in protecting their own interests.
Usually, this came at the expense of the innocent, unprotected and disregarded minority groups. Among them are the Aramean Christians. The documented history of this Semitic people and their Aramaic language in Northeast Syria and Southeast Turkey goes back to more than 3,000 years. In 2011, Syria’s Christians still numbered 8 to 10% of the 21 million total population. Today, however, in less than a decade, they represent no more than 3 to 5% of the total population of 17 million.
As the indigenous people of this area, our key interest is that our home countries will be free of terrorist groups and activities, that they normalize their relations and return to the pre-2011 security period. This will encourage Arameans and their fellow citizens to return to their homes and contribute to their ancient homeland.
What preposterous nonsense.
But this one man is right so all others must be wrong.
HEY DID SENDING 1800 TROOPS AND A TON OF OTHER SH.T TO A COUNTRY THAT PAID FOR THE KILLING OF 3000 AMERICANS SIGNAL THE NEXT BIG MOVE TOWARDS PEACE??!! :) :) :)
We HAVE PLENTY of oil.
They have NO MILITARY to speak of so we don’t need them as a military ally in the area.
Oh sure they can afford fancy weapons, just can’t fight.
What a bunch of HORSE SH.T this article and Trump’s LAME EXCUSES ARE.
I LOVE what he’s done. But he’s wrong on this.
Is that still allowed? To say Trump is wrong on something? :)
Or should I look for pitchforks out my front window?
NOW LETS GO DIR FOR SA!!!
Just thought I’d post an opinion by people who are on the scene and may have actual knowledge of the situation.
The Mission of the World Council of Arameans [Syriacs]
Mission Statement
The World Council of Arameans (Syriacs) is dedicated to answer the call to protect and secure the rights, liberty and equality of the Aramean people, safeguard and promote the cultural heritage of its ancestors, ensuring justice, and uniting all its people as a self‐determined and internationally recognized Aramean nation.
I disagree with you, I think it’s time to go and has been for a long time .
It’s difficult for Trump to make right decisions.
GOP neocons, lib/prog have tried their best to force him to be an useful idiot.
Trump was wrong when he ordered missile strikes on Syria, based on the gas attack accusations spread by white helmets.
It’s unfair to blame it on Trump.
America’s deep involvement in ME has lasted for nearly 70yrs.
Not easy to get out.
I to like to drink at night. What are you drinking?
The great thing about that is, it’s always night somewhere.
At first glance it does seem we sold the Kurds down the river, and for what gain? On the other hand this group could be right and perhaps we were in the wrong - not necessarily to back the Kurdish people, but in letting the whole conflict get long in the tooth by not keeping them in check because of the myriad complications - smallish military deployment, flooding of weapons etc.
It’s one big clusterfull over there. In Syria in particular there are at least 4 different sides fighting - Syrian government, anti-government rebels, ISIS, Kurds... But over it all is the supreme error made by Obama and Kerry (and to a lesser degree Hillary) and the CIA et al. They never saw the Russian deployment coming? With all their negotiations with Iran - the penultimate backer of the Syrian regime? Obama’s red lines/no red lines regime change/no regime change vacillation was sure to send Assad into fits of paranoia and he sought all the benefactors he could find. Iran stepped up first. Russia of course leaped for joy at the prospect and immediately agreed to send 50,000 troops!
For all of Carter’s faults, he got the damn commies out of the middle east with Camp David and out they stayed for 40 years. No toehold in the ME. No warm water ports for its navy. Obama undid it all - by design or by neglect we may never know. But for all that hokey about “Trump Russia” one things is certain - Russia never profited so much as it did under Obama-Kerry-Clinton. They got Iranian energy deals, nuclear deals, they got Syria, they got warm water ports in the Mediterranean, they got US Uranium and who knows what else... But sure, Trump was under Putin’s sway. What ridiculous misdirection all that was and what a stupid class of journalists we have in this country. Sorry for ranting and digressing...
I get so popular on these threads :)
Question - when did you first hear of the Kurds and in what context? What elevates them into some force for good and not a set of tribes who have been skirmishing for a few centuries and who need to be protected at all costs?
I first heard when Bush decided he could use them for some of his own purposes and started a propaganda spiel to validate giving them a lot of arms - many that ended up in other hands and being “counterproductive”, but the initial meme stuck with many and they “know” Trump is wrong but only have the Kurds lack of civilization which keeps them in “underdog” status as the reason.
bump
Well besides all that, for Orange to say on one day he’s getting us out of all war zones etc. and then send 2000 troop to SA, which supported the murder of 3000 of our sins is hysterically hypocritical.
Other than that, i’m closing down my comments on this subject before I have no friends left on the board.
not that i had any before lol
I love what Trump is doing. I love the great comments on the board by great folks like yourself.
We just diverge on one situation and it’s not worth any animosity.
I hope you have a great weekend FRiend
Perhaps Saudia Arabia is a more stable platform than Syria from which to watch and monitor the Iranians.
The Kurdish-controlled area of northeast Syria stretches 300 miles from the Euphrates River to the Iraqi border. Approximately 750,000 people live there, including estimates of between 40,000 and 100,000 Christians.
Over 700,000 Christians have fled Syria since 2011. And while some warn of further displacement, others fear a greater threat.
"Turkey aims to kill and destroy us and to finish the genocide against our people," said a statement issued by the Syriac Military Council, a Christian component of the Syrian Defense Forces (SDF), as reported by the Christian Broadcasting Network. "We hope and pray that as we have defended the world against ISIS, the world will not abandon us now."
Your posts sound straight up hysterical on this subject. Take a deep breath.
None of us knows everything about the situation in Syria and the countries around it or about all of the possible consequences of the many options including the option of completely pulling out. It’s important for us, as voters, to learn all that we can about military history and potential foreign threats, though. Because whatever happens in any one of a few other parts of the world might influence what happens to us here soon after that. It would really hurt to be nuked into oblivion, especially for people who live in large cities.
I don’t know much about Aramean issues, by the way, and was only offering that information to the mix.
My understanding is that they are US trained/armed Free Syrian Army forces.
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