Skip to comments.Kurdish commander: Trump approved deal with Russia, Damascus
Posted on 10/17/2019 6:44:40 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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The neocons are furious that for all intents and purposes, the Syrian Arab spring is over, the partitioning of Syria is over, Syrians can rebuild their country
Bingo. Someones pockets arent going to lined , including many who voted for the rebuke of Trump
Big win for our good friend Putin the Great
Sorry.....Syria and Russia have been allies for 50 years.
This is such a complicated situation. The Kurds had actually pushed out Syrians from that region because they wanted to make it their homeland. The result was that there was mass flight - most of the migrants or illegal immigrants flooding Europe now are Syrians - and also that ISIS got a toe-hold by representing itself as the protector of the remaining Syrians.
All these groups are Muslims, of one variety or another, although many of the Kurds are Communists of a particularly severe stripe who have been attacking Turkey for years. They were also very hard on the few remaining Christian Syrians.
Turkey originally claimed that it wanted to clear the Kurds so that it could return the Syrian refugees to it. This was in response to increasing EU resistance to the Syrian refugees, and the demand that Turkey actually take all the refugees in its own territory. This was because most of them were passing through TUrkey to get to Europe and Turkey was thus the first country to which they should have applied for asylum and where they should have remained. Naturally, the Turks didnt want an infusion of thousands of Syrians.
Add to that historic animosities, Erdogans Islamic dictatorship aspirations, and - who knows whats going on over there? I think Trump was right to extricate us from this.
Which Kurds,,,the good Kurds or the bad Kurds??
This used to be a threat to the western world in the days of the USSR. Today, maybe not worth any of our blood opposing. That remains to be seen and wont be evident for years. In the meantime, Putin may find meaning himself to the phrase "be careful what you wish for".
Syria been a Russian Client state since the 1950s. Maybe the macho boy neo cons Rambos should go fight their own wars for once instead of expecting other people’s children to do the dying for them
Syria been a Russian client state since the 1950s. He is not gaining anything he did not all ready have.
I don’t understand then what the problem is.
I am a Cold Warrior. Spent 22 years of my life serving the United States.
I hated the Soviets and still hate communists.
But I don’t hate Russians. They’re still the largest country in Europe, and own a huge amount of land in Asia. We need to deal with them fairly and honestly, like any other country. And yes, we deal with dictators all the time. That’s not new nor makes Putin special.
The 1991 dissolution of the Soviet Union was an awesome thing. I really believed our clash would end in Nuclear War and my death (and everyone I knew). I remember watching the Missile Warning screens in Cheyenne Mountain as they played the Mass Attack scenario and telling another, “Someday, some lunatic is going to get this all going for real.” I believed it.
So when they threw off Communism, well, that should be a holy day for all of us.
I don’t think even the dictator Putin is as bad as the Communists. I do think he wants to push Russian influence around the world.
However, this is not a tit for tat situation like we had with the Soviets.
An American withdrawal does not mean an automatic Russian victory. This is Cold War thinking. I understand it, but ask those others who believe it to step away from the precipice that could bring us back to nuclear brinkmanship.
It is not necessary.
American interest in the Middle East are not bound to keeping our guys as a tripwire like they’re were in the 1970s Fulda Gap.
Back away. Realize that Russia is a minor adversary who we can make deals with without losing and actually gaining a lot.
Well, IMHO dead Russians are vastly preferable to dead Americans especially if we have no strategic interest in being in Syria and Russia does. Russia is not the Hegemonic power the USSR was. They have an economy the size of France and as Trump has shown us the major power battles of the 21st century will be economic. What does Russia really want other than a Med port? To suckle at Uncle Sugar’s teat like the rest of the world. Granted, Putin is ex-KGB so is a sneaky SOB. It also makes him smart. There is nothing for us in Syria. There is something for him. Let him have it. It brings our troops home.
What do you know. We agree on something.
“Big win for our good friend Putin the Great”
So what the hell did Putin win? Russia is now stuck with millions of cousin marrying, goat raping savages. Our boys are out of the way, the parasite class in DC has fewer sources of graft from war, and the genocidal Turks are fighting Marxist communist Kurds.
Go fluff GWB and Obama.
That is funny.
Take a look at this. https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3786766/posts
Go watch the interview with the General discussing the psyop to create “Good” Syrian Kurds.
It is no secret that President Trump OKd anyone who wanted to support the Syrian Kurds from the Turkish assault.
He tweeted it out to the whole world.
Syrian Kurds and the Syrian regime have been dancing around the details of how they would get along after the war for years. The Kurds have always known they would need protection from Turkey. They have just been using US support to leverage more autonomy from the regime, in their negotiations. If the dont need to pay anything for continued American subsidies and military protection, they would be foolish not to use as much as they could.
The President is driving those negotiations to a close, rather than an endless stalemate that relies on unending American subsidies.
I would love to see Istanbul renamed Constantinopal again. I think that is Putin’s real goal. Who on this forum loves the Turks over Russia?
He wouldn’t be there at all if there was not something to gain, or at least he thought so.
“The neocons are furious that for all intents and purposes, the Syrian Arab spring is over, the partitioning of Syria is over, Syrians can rebuild their country.”
My question is what was wrong with Syria before we intervened in 2011 under Obola and the Witch and tried to overthrow the Assad government. Even with Russian involvement, it didn’t seem to be doing much harm to either Israel or the US. At worst, it was a slightly irritating piss ant. All we ended up with was an ISIS horror we had to spend money and lives to get rid of. Looks like it’s a good thing to have the Russians in where we were and us out.
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