Posted on 10/23/2019 7:55:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Because Russia and Turkey won’t be paying them. Neither will we.
We got stuck with rebuilding costs because in the wake of WW2, it was a really good idea to rebuild Germany (and to a far less degree Japan) - considering that the reason WW2 kicked off was because a beaten Germany (which was a Great Power of the time) was literally raped for ‘reparations’ and not rebuilt, fostering resentment and giving the housepainter with a funny mustache and a penchant for long rambling speeches a readymade audience who wanted to get even.
WW2 was therefore a direct sequel to WW1. Nobody in the US wanted to repeat the European powers’ stupidity and have to send our boys over to die yet again in another useless war 20 years later - they’d already seen the ending to this movie and did not want to see it again. Unfortunately, many in this country decided that this policy should be extended to most every country that we ended up invading/bombing/whatever.
We are one of the only countries on this planet that has this policy.
Yeah, while I tend libertarian myself, that’s just a bad idea. We do have interests and treaty obligations around the world and to be able to honor our requirements, we need bases. We don’t necessarily need bases in countries that hate us, so I support moving our German bases to Poland, which would dearly love us to be there. And sure, there are some that should be closed because we don’t really need them any more.
But war, direct or otherwise, with China is starting to edge on inevitable and we’re not going to be able to prosecute that war without long established bases. If our ships have to sail all the way back across the Pacific for repairs, we’re going to lose a lot more of them and probably lose.
We end up being the “crusaders” that unite all the warring factions against us in many cases, I think.
Pretty valuable and an independent Kurd state in North Syria as a de facto American protectorate and client state would have given our political class great power to sell
And add another dimension to an existing conflict.
So, own Turkey so you can build an oil pipeline...super! Firstly, that didn’t happen in 10 years. Secondly, I find it ironic that the people who go through great lengths to block Trump from opening up oil reserves locally want to fight a war to do it abroad. The policy is non sense. The goals are simply not worth it. A client Kurdish state? Turkey, in most situations, is fine with the U.S launching from military bases there. Even more so if the U.S chose there side in a civil war. If they want a Kurdish state... they’ll have to fight for it with their own people
Every time peace is declared in the ME a new war breaks out.
Russia must have forgotten the lessons of Afghanistan.
And I am talking about the United States not paying a dime towards any cost of any sort regarding rebuilding Syria.
I was not ambiguous in any way in my statement.
You must not know about the places called “Japan” South Korea” and “The Philippians”
We can’t honor anything with $22,000,000,000,000 national debt and climbing. We are more in debt than any country in history of mankind. We are flat broke, but just won’t admit it.
I can’t think of anything more stupid than borrowing money from Japan & China to fight wars in the middle-east, to protect oil flows from middle-east to Japan & China. They are both bleeding us dry economically, and we no longer need the middle-east oil, thanks to president Trump.
Please locate “The Philippians” on a map.
If you are instead trying to refer to the Philippines, we pulled out of there in the 90s and only recently when a more friendly government was elected were able to use five smaller bases. The arrangement with them allows their government to kick us out at will. China pressures them, they’ll fold
South Korea? China pressures them a lot and they’ll deny us basing.
Japan? Already not happy with us over misbehavior at the base on Okinawa. Often refuses to let openly nuclear combat ships in. May go neutral in a war between China and the US.
Also, all of those are an awful long flight or swim for damaged attack vehicles.
China goes to war with us, most of that debt disappears.
Wake up and smell the coffee. China is killing us economically by stealing millions of our middle class jobs in manufacturing. China does NOT need to fight us militarily. China has built humongous infra-structure using American money with those ugly trade deficits we have with them. And China has expanded their military by orders of magnitude since USA helped them get into WTO.
And Russia doesn’t seem to care about body bags, so let them die for that region. Kudos to Trump and I will say here I was wrong to doubt this move.
Funny, when America is there, Turkey is all for war on the Kurds, but Russians come and he sucks Putin.
I say start with Afghanistan, then Turkey, then Pakistan and the Saudis; followed by the European twits. And I didn’t realize how large the Japanese military budget was. Are we still in there?
Yes, in Okinawa,Japan AFAIK.
And WTF are we doing in Korea after 65 years after the war ended?
And why are we spending (BORROWING ACTUALLY) Billions to maintain military in prosperous Germany?
The WWII mentality never ends, and the country has gone bankrupt. The grand children are going to cuss this gang of chickenhawks to no end, because they are saddled with the crazy debt.
This should have happened long ago. NeoCons & NeoLibs stopped it.
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