Posted on 11/15/2019 5:50:53 AM PST by oh8eleven
Full Title:"New fence at St. Patricks Cathedral in NYC going up on NYPDs advice and over gripes from homeless advocates"
St. Patricks Cathedral plans to install a decorative/protective iron fence atop the stone wall at the Madison Ave. end of the cathedral as an anti-terrorism security upgrade recommended by the NYPD outside the residence of Timothy Cardinal Dolan.
But the grassy strip between the current 4-foot, 8-inch high wall and the Neo-Gothic cathedral is sometimes used by the local homeless to bed down for the night, and advocates wondered if there was some way to protect both his eminence and the dispossessed.
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Wait until Pope Francis hears about this! He hates walls and fences of any type. Ill bet he orders the entire wall be torn down. And hell probably order the locks to be removed from all the cathedral doors as well.
Because Francis is not a hypocrite, right?
To a point. If the homeless prevents people from attending church, that hits their bottom line in donations.
Ever see the wall our pope lives behind? Growing up, our Church never locked its doors. You could stop in any time. Even the bad kids were afraid to do anything against the Church.
Mr. Bergoglio, Tear Down This Wall!
Lol. Does the pope know. He may wag his finger. Naughty naughty.
Yes, the Pope's not going to like this!
And isn't St. Patrick's a bastion of "progressivism/liberalism/the left"?
They’re putting a fence ON TOP of the wall???
That Vatican wall really is something! The least Francis could do is drill maybe six large walkways in it. And Im being serious here. If the Pope really believes in open borders, he should make it easy for people to move between Italy and the Vatican.
Side note: Vatican citizenship is extremely difficult to obtain. Even people who have worked there for decades cant get it. I did a little calculation awhile back. Based on its acreage, the Vatican could easily triple its population. Why wont Francis let more people in?
Not much of a wall there just a wide avenue straight into the Italian city of Rome.
But that doesn't support The Narrative, so we'll ignore it.
“Fences don’t work” — the people building this particular fence.
I’m curious, if there is wide avenue is open between Rome and The Vatican, why is there such a line around the wall?
Serious question.
Part of a serious reply:
My picture (St. Peter’s Square) literally (geographically) is the other side of the story Vatican City covers more than 100 acres. I’m not clear what’s going on in that snapshot of the wall and the long line or how often a long line forms in that area. In St. Peter’s Square, the border is indicated by a colored line on the ground and people can cross it any time they like.
More of a serious answer:
The “wall” picture shows one of the bastions on the west side of VC poke around with Google Earth in street view mode, and you’ll probably find it. You’ll also find lots of wide open gates, unguarded, with tourists freely walking through them.
My wild-eyed guess is that the line is people waiting to get in to some museum.
Thanks!
Whatever happened to welcoming the stranger? Or building bridges, not walls?
Besides, walls don’t work.
NO...only some dissident clerics support open borders. The official Teaching Magisterium has far more wisdom about such things.
Well, when you post a picture from St. Peter's looking in the direction of one of the few places where there is a gap in the wall surrounding the Vatican, sure, you can make it look like there is not much of a wall.
However, if you look at this map of Vatican City, please note the map key that says "International Boundary (city wall)", and which corresponds to the solid line that encompasses, the entire city except for openings at 3 points, then it does seem like the wall is quite real:
Get on google street view. There are a lot more than three wide open entrances in the wall.
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