Democrats unveil articles of impeachment

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[romanesq]

They are in a rush to do this before Christmas. It’s such a farce but tragic for our Republic.

I hope they are annihilated next year in the 2020 election.
The Rats are anti-Republic scum.

[AndyJackson]

The Constitution does not say the Senate has to conduct a fair trial

That is utter BS.

[taxcontrol]

There are two charges:

1) Abuse of office by asking Ukraine to assist in investigations. Something specifically allowed by treaty.

and

2) Obstruction of Congress for the President exerting Executive Privilege and not cooperating with the above. The concept of Executive Privilege has been upheld by SCOTUS in US vs Nixon. This issue has not yet to worked it’s way through the court system. So not only is this second charge based on a non-crime of above, it has not yet been resolved via the courts.

I am of the opinion that if the House passes the articles of Impeachment, that the Senate should receive the articles and “take up” the articles and then send the articles to the Senate Judiciary committee for review ad the house process was highly irregular an perhaps in violation of the House rules. Once there, a simple response of ... there is no crime here (for the above reasons) and table the matter until such time as the House is able to articulate an actual crime.

For the details of the abuse of office statue:
25 CFR § 11.448 - Abuse of office.

§ 11.448 Abuse of office.
A person acting or purporting to act in an official capacity or taking advantage of such actual or purported capacity commits a misdemeanor if, knowing that his or her conduct is illegal, he or she:

(a) Subjects another to arrest, detention, search, seizure, mistreatment, dispossession, assessment, lien or other infringement of personal or property rights; or

(b) Denies or impedes another in the exercise or enjoyment of any right, privilege, power or immunity.

Several misses from the above:
ref the main part of knowingly - the existing treaty specifically allows the request for investigations.

under (a) no person was involved. Sovereign countries are not persons. Further “delay of benefits” is NOT listed.

under (b) since Ukraine did receive the authorized payment, there is no violation here either.

[americas.best.days...]

Walls are closing in....beginning of the end...we got it.

[LoveMyFreedom]

We know there is no such thing as Obstruction of Congress, but the majority of the population is not aware of this. Hopefully our President will discuss this at the rally!

[sport]

Everything is made up Laz, there is no basis for this. It all began with the god of Alabama Republicans, Jeff Sessions recusing himself and allowing a “Special Prosecutor[s]” to “look “ into the matter. Instead of saying,”No, there is no indication that a crime has been committed. And until there is indication of criminal activity, there will be no investigation.”

[MNJohnnie]

That why there are thousands of people busy on Social Media ponting out this is a fraud. Trump cannot do it all himself.

[windsorknot]

“Bombshell”! “Devastating”!

[JLAGRAYFOX]

Hail to all Americans!!! Democrat, Hillary Clinton, the upcoming Democrat Party, 2020 POTUS, Candidate, emerges to the top of the 2020 POTUS Race...mainly because the Democrat Party does not have one, not one, able, qualified, decent, 2020 POTUS candidate in the entire pack of their deadbeat, useless politicians running for 2020 POTUS ..period.

Dems, Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, Nadler and all Democrat Party low life, the dregs of decent & honest, society, are not America Republic lovers, nor will they sustain this great Republic if they ever get political power again!!!! Their unabashed hero is “Orwell’s Big Brother”, whom you all will be forced to worship and obey his Despot, Dictator, every command...you Dems must all be idiots...or, it is quite possible you all are high on reefer or booze...if not hard drugs!!! Wake up fools....you ain’t got a clue what is in store for you...down the path of Democrat Party destruction of the American Republic and all your current freedoms.

Bottom line: Folks destroy the entire Democrat Party, politically...the first chance you get, or, you will soon be nothing but a slave to Big Brother, Adam (Bug Eyed, Bulging Eyes, Insane), Schiff and Big Sister, Nutcase, “WITCH” Nancy Pelosi!!! Wise up...folks!!!!

[devane617]

NOW is when WE the people can step in and make a difference....Get in touch with every House rep you can call and let them know what a bad thing this is. Don’t let them step out of a door without being there.

[LibertyOh]

Leaving a cloud over his head must be their goal. They hope to remove him him from office and make him ineligible for reelection but know that won’t happen so their only hope is to leave a mark they will argue later as illegitimizing him to try to block judicial appointments. We have to focus on taking the House back or the next four years will be repeated impeachments.

[Magnum44]

Thanks :)

[matt04]

I haven’t had the time to read it, but that was my initial opinion to based on the few news reports I’ve read. Obstruction of Congress is not a thing it is simply a made up charge because none of their other supposed evidence, that the They have tried to find it in past weeks such as quid pro quo, bribery, extortion etc. Has come through for that.

[a fool in paradise]

#FakeImpeachment

[Georgia Girl 2]

I’m still skeptical that Nan has the votes.

[basalt]

no...the difference is is that there was an actual CRIME!!...the actual break in...plus Nixon tried to get the CIA to block the FBI investigation....thats your obstruction and abuse of power. This all was backed after many of Nixons top aides pled guilty and flipped on him. As for the congress...no articles were filed until after Nixons executive privilege claim WENT TO THE SUPREME COURT....and yet he still didnt produce the tapes they wanted. He only released a transcript. What was filed today is not even close to what was filed on Nixon...The Senate should dismiss this outright...

[US_MilitaryRules]

How many times can the dems/communists impeach him?

[TomGuy]

alleging abuse of power and obstruction of Congress regarding his interactions with Ukraine

Pelosi already sank the Dems' battleship last Friday with her assertion that 'it is not about Ukraine, it is about Russia.'

Dems can't even get on the same page.

'Obstruction of Congress'? Equal branches. The SC would rule that the Executive Branch has not only rights, but responsibilities, of protecting it from Congressional overreach.

If this is all the Dems have, their case seems very shallow.

[enumerated]

“Wonder if the president will insist on a trial.”

Good question. I doubt he’ll insist on a trial, but I’m sure he would welcome it. It’s up to the Senate Republicans to decide. The President will go along with their decision because he’ll want them on his side to assure as much Republican unanimity as possible.

A trial would exonerate him more fully, but it is also somewhat more risky as it gives the Democrats another bite at the apple.

I think he’ll take the dismissal if it’s offered, and call it a win.

[dfwgator]

This is just Pelosi’s way of turning around and saying to the rabid base, “See, I got you your Impeachment, now leave me alone!”