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St. Louis City Government Goes Orwellian, Bans Second Amendment in Parks
AmmoLand ^ | 17 December, 2019 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 12/20/2019 6:09:19 AM PST by marktwain

On 13 December, 2019, Lyda Krewson, the Mayor of St. Louis, Missouri, signed a city ordinance purported to ban guns from St. Louis City parks. It was passed by a vote of 16-2. The bill used a novel approach to circumvent the Missouri State protections for Second Amendment rights. Bill No. 134 declared that St. Louis parks and recreation facilities are “child-care” facilities, and are, therefore, banned from allowing firearms in them. From stltoday.com:

Missouri state law allows adults to carry guns in the open, so the new law reclassifies the parks and recreation facilities as child-care facilities, where guns are not allowed.

Last week, Alderman Bret Narayan, D-24th Ward, predicted that this reclassification would face a challenge in the courts by gun-rights activists, who he said would likely prevail.

People in Missouri have the right to carry holstered, loaded, pistols in most public places most of the time. There are a few exceptions. One of them is for child-care facilities, as defined in RS 571.107.  From revisor.mo.gov:

(11) Any portion of a building used as a child care facility without the consent of the manager.

Careful readers will note the exception is for a portion of a building used as a child care facility. Most of the areas of parks and recreation facilities in St. Louis are not inside of buildings. Here is the way it is worded in Bill No. 134:

An ordinance directing the installation of signs, as specified in this ordinance, notifying individuals that City of St. Louis parks and parks facilities are child-care facilities under Section 210.201 of the Revised Statutes of Missouri, and that as child-care facilities the possession and carrying of firearms are prohibited under Section 571.107(11) of the Revised Statutes of Missouri.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: banglist; clickbait; guncontrol; missouri; mo; secondamendment
Re-defining St. Louis Parks as "child-care facilities" is positively Orwellian.

Don't like Constitutional rights? Just change the definition of words.

1 posted on 12/20/2019 6:09:19 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I will petition my local city to ban the First Amendment and outlaw all mosques. I’m not sure how I’ll need to re-define words, but I’ll think of something.


2 posted on 12/20/2019 6:13:52 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: marktwain

Stop him! He is stealing my child! Why can’t you do something?

Mam, this is a child care facility, besides I am not allowed to carry a weapon to protect myself, much less you or your child.

See, he is too far away now.


3 posted on 12/20/2019 6:18:25 AM PST by Dacula (Epstein did not kill himself.)
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To: marktwain

And this is how they do i. People think police will go door-to-door and maybe they will but all the government has to do is change the rules and behavior over time. Socially engineered behavior modification....cowed in to corners.


4 posted on 12/20/2019 6:20:54 AM PST by Karliner (Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28 Isa 17 "This is the end of the beginning" W Churchill)
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To: marktwain

Applies only against law abiding citizens.


5 posted on 12/20/2019 6:22:39 AM PST by umgud
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To: marktwain

Keep voting for demonRATs... you have instituted the government that you deserve, and now they’re making the calls for the overall good of the constituency.

That’s the way it is.


6 posted on 12/20/2019 6:25:08 AM PST by Home-of-the-lazy-dog ("Leftists will stand before you and cut off their own head just to prove that they'll do it!")
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To: marktwain

This is the way the left will effectively overturn most of the 2nd amendment, by designating most of the country as a gun-free zone and punishable if ignored.


7 posted on 12/20/2019 6:32:47 AM PST by CatOwner
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To: marktwain

Good job, STL, that’ll keep the gangbangers in line and everyone else safe at the park BBQs and parties.


8 posted on 12/20/2019 6:54:25 AM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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St, Louis will see dead people.


9 posted on 12/20/2019 6:54:25 AM PST by Retvet (Retvet)
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To: marktwain

Creating NO-GO Zones For Their Own Citizens


10 posted on 12/20/2019 7:20:48 AM PST by Vlad The Inhaler (I love Mankind - It's Just Most Of The People That I Can't Stand)
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Well those that carry will do so to commit crimes. They will get a pass


11 posted on 12/20/2019 7:38:22 AM PST by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Under Missouri child care laws and regs, a facility hosting more than six children must be licensed, certified and inspected by the state, all employees must undergo background check and drug test etc...

The law cut both ways. Suit against the city for non-compliance ought to filed as soon as the signage is posted. Make it hurt.

Oh, and by the way, rsmo 571.107, 2.iii clearly states carrying a concealed weapon by a ccwl holder in a prohibited area such as school child care facility etc is not a crime.....


12 posted on 12/20/2019 7:52:45 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: marktwain

“Re-defining St. Louis Parks as “child-care facilities” is positively Orwellian.”

They should do that to abortion clinics. That would totally freak the left out.


13 posted on 12/20/2019 8:01:05 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (When you think about what the left is doing to America, think no further than Cloward-Piven)
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To: marktwain

This will no doubt result in a great reduction of murders on the city’s north side.


14 posted on 12/20/2019 8:39:48 AM PST by lurk
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I smell an injunction coming in 4, 3, 2, 1. . .


15 posted on 12/20/2019 8:44:52 AM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot!)
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To: marktwain

Does this ordinance also apply to city police and bodyguards of city politicians? I think not.


16 posted on 12/20/2019 8:49:02 AM PST by Xa Shue
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To: marktwain

It’s amazing how many constitutional rights cease at the government’s door.


17 posted on 12/20/2019 8:53:19 AM PST by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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To: marktwain

While many people think neighboring Ferguson is the most dangerous city in St Louis area, the truth is St Louis itself and neighboring Illinois is the most dangerous place.

Beyond that St Louis, Missouri is one of the untouched treasures of these united States The highly fragmented city pattern that exist there has created a level of accountability that allows for general prosperity even if the host city is wholly corrupt and uninhabitable Much of the metropolitan area is thriving.

Allowing them to benefit from St Louis’s advantageous location at the intersection of 3 of the most important navigable rivers in North America, The Mississippi, the Missouri, and Illinois rivers, which allows inexpensive access to most all of the content.

Only the ideologies follow democrats to the hell they have spent the last 50 years creating. As long as we can fragment power we can be the light and show the people the truth. That is what has been happening to St Louis area, where only the area ruled by the leftist leaders of St Louis itself for 50 years is in decline.


18 posted on 12/26/2019 12:37:36 AM PST by Monorprise
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Don't like Constitutional rights? Just change the definition of words.

Wait until you see what I do with the 13th Amendment....

19 posted on 12/26/2019 11:02:16 AM PST by archy
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Just wait until the next mass shooting happens in a St. Louis park.

They're just begging for it.

20 posted on 12/26/2019 11:03:10 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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