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The FISA Court’s Feeble Rebuke of the FBI Means The Court Should be Abolished
GREGG JARRETT ^ | 12/20/2019 | GREGG JARRETT

Posted on 12/21/2019 7:51:13 PM PST by george76

The FISA court has awakened from its deep slumber. Too damned late… and not enough.

Finally, the FISA court has awakened from its deep slumber. Too damned late… and not enough.

On Tuesday, presiding judge Rosemary Collyer issued an order slamming fired director James Comey’s FBI for presenting “false information,” concealing exculpatory evidence, and misleading the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. But her judicial fix is feckless. She is now demanding that the FBI present the steps it will take to remedy these problems in future surveillance warrant applications. If this is her idea of a solution, it’s a joke. And shameful.

A year and a half ago when the redacted FISA applications were first made public, it was obvious that the FBI relied almost entirely on Christopher Steele’s phony “dossier” and that the FISA court was being lied to. Back then, Collyer should have immediately ordered a “show cause contempt” hearing demanding that Comey, Sally Yates, Andrew McCabe, Dana Boente and Rod Rosenstein all appear before the court to explain why they should not be held in criminal contempt for deceiving judges in the four warrant applications they signed. They swore that the information was true and verified when they knew or should have known it was not. Collyer still isn’t ordering a contempt hearing. This is an appalling abdication of judicial duty.

It means that the FISA court doesn’t really care that it was lied to by the FBI. If it did, Collyer would hold these FBI & DOJ officials legally responsible for defrauding the court. The message here is this: you can lie to the FISA court and there will be no accountability or punishment. If you get caught, the court will merely demand remedies for the future.

This will not go over well in Congress among those who feel that FISA has become a serious and chronic danger to civil liberties. They are right. The currently constituted FISA court must be abolished. A new system should take its place –one that does not rely on the FBI to be honest and trustworthy because the bureau has proven that it cannot be.

The FBI was caught lying before back in 2002. In more than 75 cases, the FBI had deceived judges in sensitive surveillance warrants. Then-director Robert Mueller appeared before the FISA court and promised reforms. He vowed that it would never happen again.

Predictably, it has.

Any new system that replaces FISA must embrace an adversarial element. It is imperative that a specially appointed public advocate be empowered to scrutinize FBI warrant applications and, when necessary, challenge the dubious claims made by FBI officials. Hearings must be required —no more paper submissions by the FBI wherein the judges simply accept as truth any representation made. The days of rubber-stamping the FBI must end.

Comey and his confederates abused the trust vested in them and have done incalculable damage to the FBI and the nation. Only genuine, systemic reform will put a halt to future acts of lawlessness and corruption.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: andrewmccabe; boente; christophersteele; collyer; comey; danaboente; deepstate; doj; dossier; fbi; fisa; fisacourt; fisagate; fisc; greggjarrett; jamescomey; mccabe; rodrosenstein; rosemarycollyer; rosenstein; sallyyates; steeledossier; yates
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1 posted on 12/21/2019 7:51:13 PM PST by george76
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Time to punish the monkeys.

But you leave those organ-grinders alone!


2 posted on 12/21/2019 7:55:27 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats only believe in democracy when they win the election.)
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It is imperative that a specially appointed public advocate be empowered to scrutinize FBI warrant applications and, when necessary, challenge the dubious claims made by FBI officials.

Public Advocate says: "Heck, looks good to me!!"

3 posted on 12/21/2019 7:55:38 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: george76

Should have never been started.

Secret courts have no place in a free country.


4 posted on 12/21/2019 7:55:42 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: george76

I believe in the tool but something has to change. It should be that the actual advocates of the warrant MUST become between the court and explain...just as if it was a special court...which it is.


5 posted on 12/21/2019 7:55:57 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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The FISA Judges are claiming they were hoodwinked. Nonsense. They are a part of the Deep State and knew they were being “deceived”.


6 posted on 12/21/2019 7:58:49 PM PST by Vehmgericht
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Who would be the one to shut it down? Trump? The senate? The SCOTUS? I don’t know


7 posted on 12/21/2019 8:00:20 PM PST by dandiegirl (BOBBY)
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Congress. The FISC law of 1978 would have to be repealed.


8 posted on 12/21/2019 8:01:01 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill & Publius available at Amazon.)
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Congress would have to undo it and they won’t.


9 posted on 12/21/2019 8:02:44 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Sacajaweau

“Rudy is on the [Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court]!” Page excitedly texted Strzok on July 25, 2016. “Did you know that? Just appointed two months ago.”

“I did,” Strzok responded. “I need to get together with him.”

“[He] said he’d gotten on a month or two ago at a graduation party we were both at.”

“[REDACTED] suggested a social setting with others would probably be better than a one on one meeting,” Strzok told Page. “I’m sorry, I’m just going to have to invite you to that cocktail party.”

“Have to come up with some other work people cover for action,” Strzok added.


10 posted on 12/21/2019 8:03:40 PM PST by oldernittany
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Present steps to remedy these problems

It is called Long Prison Terms .

Proper remedy to discourage others from commmiting this crime.

11 posted on 12/21/2019 8:05:48 PM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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If the fbi will not follow current law who with a brain expects them to follow new laws?
More laws will not cure ‘lawlessness’...


12 posted on 12/21/2019 8:07:12 PM PST by glasseye ("24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence? I think not." ~ H. L. Mencken)
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To: george76

Bull.
It’s Congress and the Executive that should be punishing the miscreants who signed off on these requests.


13 posted on 12/21/2019 8:07:33 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

The courts and lawyers are corrupt.
TOTALLY CORRUPT and in on it from the beginning.

Probably were raping children on tape to control them.


14 posted on 12/21/2019 8:09:11 PM PST by Diogenesis ( WWG1WGA)
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To: george76

They should have been cited forcontempt, perjury referrals dispatched, and the warrants quashed. All that followed was fruit of the poisonous tree. Anything less is just telling the bailiff to whack his peepee.


15 posted on 12/21/2019 8:10:22 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("Sorry, your race card has been declined. Can you present any other form of argument?")
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To: Vehmgericht
The FISA Judges are claiming they were hoodwinked. Nonsense. They are a part of the Deep State and knew they were being “deceived”.

I think it's pretty obvious at this point that the court was in on it.

I also think these evil oligarchs are going to find out they screwed with the wrong president.

16 posted on 12/21/2019 8:19:25 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (BLACK LIVES MAGA)
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To: george76

Agree! And the head should be removed from the judiciary!


17 posted on 12/21/2019 8:20:48 PM PST by Vesparado (The American people know what they want and they deserve to get it good and hard --- HL Mencken)
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To: george76

Tie this around the FISA court supervisor/administrator’s neck.

Hint: Traitor Roberts...


18 posted on 12/21/2019 8:23:16 PM PST by Paladin2 (uivalent amount on ammo for same.)
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To: george76

I suspect one of the reasons for the feeble response to this whole debacle is that there is almost no measurable damage from illicit FISA surveillance. I’d be surprised if there is a single person anywhere in the U.S. who has been prosecuted n the basis of information obtained through a FISA warrant. With all of the advanced technology out there today, I think a FISA warrant does nothing more than provide legal window dressing for intrusive surveillance that our intelligence agencies conducts routinely on all forms of electronic communication.


19 posted on 12/21/2019 8:31:52 PM PST by Alberta's Child (In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.)
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To: george76

The fact its a star chamber secret court that the public doesnt know the judges and can’t vote on them or even have representatives vote for them, makes it enough to be disbanded.


20 posted on 12/21/2019 8:33:33 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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