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Don’t Repeat The Last Two Decades Of Foreign Policy Idiocies With Iran
The Federalist ^ | January 3, 2020 | Sumantra Maitra

Posted on 01/03/2020 7:43:00 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 01/03/2020 7:43:00 AM PST by Kaslin
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Reagan handled Libya so well. One attack and they went quiet for decades, giving up their nuclear program along the way. Until Hillary screwed things up.
Trump is doing the best he can with the politicians he has to work with.


2 posted on 01/03/2020 7:48:07 AM PST by ArtDodger
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The message that Trump sent was not only for iran, it was for Iraq and their leadership. They should listen.


3 posted on 01/03/2020 7:50:36 AM PST by richardtavor
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“President Donald Trump was not elected to civilize the Middle East.”

Defending our embassy and people that work there =/= civilizing the middle east.

Or because they are there, they dont really matter?


4 posted on 01/03/2020 7:53:14 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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Why was general dirka dirka in Iraq in the first place?


5 posted on 01/03/2020 7:53:28 AM PST by dsrtsage (Complexity is merely simplicity lacking imagination)
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To: Kaslin

When you are in a fight, fight to win.


6 posted on 01/03/2020 7:58:07 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: dsrtsage

to kill our troops


7 posted on 01/03/2020 7:59:43 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Ah, the old ‘don’t anger the terrorist he might get angrier and... commit acts of terrorism argument. Leaving terrorists alone means they stay only half angry so they’ll just use one bomb belt instead of two.


8 posted on 01/03/2020 8:00:57 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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“ The message that Trump sent was not only for iran, it was for Iraq and their leadership.”

Along with every other thug on the world stage.

9 posted on 01/03/2020 8:01:48 AM PST by daler
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Three block war:

Block 1 - Handing out food
Block 2 - Calming agitated crowds
Block 3 - Armed fighting

Oh, don’t forget Human Terrain Mapping and hugging you inner-child..!

What if on a day of heavy trench-digging one of our guys checks out a PAIR OF BOOBS...?

Come on, let’s really think this through..!

Can’t WAIT for some good ole IRAN NATION-BUILDING, oh joooy..!

Isn’t THAT going to be fun...!


10 posted on 01/03/2020 8:02:00 AM PST by gaijin
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Just let them keep killing US service members?

No thanks.


11 posted on 01/03/2020 8:02:09 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Epstein pulled a Carradine, the bozo.)
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To: richardtavor

Why are we still there? Nothing being accomplished in a conflict that was stupid from the start. How many more Americans are we willing to lose to prop up the Iraqi government, which is pro-Iran, because we took out the old anti-Iran government. Everything the US has done in the Middle East has backfired and caused nothing but misery and death and cost us dearly in American lives and treasure. This is doubling down on stupid.


12 posted on 01/03/2020 8:10:02 AM PST by Pining_4_TX ("Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods." ~ H.L. Mencken)
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Think North Korea too.

There are some striking similarities between the two nations along the lines of nuclear weapons and missiles.

Intransigent leadership and a restless populace could also be tossed in.

The North wants to live like the South.


13 posted on 01/03/2020 8:10:30 AM PST by DoughtyOne (The Leftistist media and particularly CNN NEWS should come with a ten day supply of Cipro.)
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To: VanDeKoik

Yeah, an Iran with nukes and ICBMs wouldn’t impact us at all.

Lets just stay home... UNTIL!


14 posted on 01/03/2020 8:11:49 AM PST by DoughtyOne (The Leftistist media and particularly CNN NEWS should come with a ten day supply of Cipro.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

So what does this have to do with people targeting our embassy again?

No one asked these idiots to do it. They did. They can now go find something else to do.


15 posted on 01/03/2020 8:12:16 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Kaslin

This is a thoughtful article. Thanks for posting. Although I think this strike was totally justified, I wonder whether it was a good idea. My hope is that there’s some non-obvious angle Trump and U.S. intelligence are following.

Like, maybe they have figured out that these two guys were critical in keeping various factions within the Revolutionary guards (or the Iranian regime generally) balanced or in check. Perhaps the resulting internecine battle (within the Iranian leadership) to fill these posts will help destabilize the regime at a very delicate time for them.


16 posted on 01/03/2020 8:13:00 AM PST by edwinland
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We had a balance of power situation with Iraq somewhat bottling up Iran until George W. Bush idiotically removed the Sunni dictator, and bringing in enough “democracy” for the pro-Iranian Shi’a majority to dominate. Iran could not have asked for more.

Saddam ran a brutal Sunni kleptocracy with an iron fist for a reason (besides liking it): it’s the only thing that would contain the factional strife in his country. Current solution: Install a new Saddam. Otherwise, deal with their mess forever.


17 posted on 01/03/2020 8:16:33 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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It is quite possible that the protestors are Iraqis who want the US out. We shouldn’t even have an embassy there. It’s all bogus.


18 posted on 01/03/2020 8:17:22 AM PST by Pining_4_TX ("Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods." ~ H.L. Mencken)
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To: Kaslin
Attempting to liberalize an entire swathe of land against the wishes of the majority of its populace can be attributed to two causal variables: Delusional idealism, and faith in the intrinsic goodness of human nature.

The author mistakenly believes that the U.S. ever had any interest in “liberalizing” anything in the Middle East. The reality is that “freedom and democracy” is nothing more than a political slogan used by American politicians to dupe low-information voters to support foreign military campaigns that are being carried out against the best interests of those voters. The U.S. has been pursuing a foreign/military strategy in the Middle East that is designed solely for the foreign and corporate interests that have owned our government for years.

19 posted on 01/03/2020 8:17:22 AM PST by Alberta's Child (In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.)
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To: VanDeKoik

They shouldn’t be there in the first place. Putting a U.S. embassy in Baghdad is like holding a wedding reception on a hog farm.


20 posted on 01/03/2020 8:19:34 AM PST by Alberta's Child (In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.)
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