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Trump lawyers respond to articles of impeachment: 'Constitutionally invalid'
Fox News ^ | January 18, 2020 | Marisa Schultz

Posted on 01/18/2020 2:59:24 PM PST by jazusamo

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To: Jim W N
Why did Trump’s lawyers wait for the Articles of Impeachment to cry constitutional foul? Hell, the investigation from the start was unconstitutional violating the 4A’s requirement for reasonable suspicion and probable cause to launch and continue an investigation.

To introduce evidence. Trump and company set a trap for the democrats and they walked right into it. Trump isn't in trouble. Biden is and so are a whole lot more. The coup is going down. I'm betting Trump can't wait to testify.

21 posted on 01/18/2020 3:31:11 PM PST by upsdriver (WWG1WGA 1745)
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To: goldstategop
If you take that position, impeachment is just another political weapon.

Impeachment is just another political weapon. Always has been. Always will be.

22 posted on 01/18/2020 3:31:29 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

It supposed to be for crimes so serious that elections aren’t a remedy for them.

That’s not the case with Trump’s impeachment.


23 posted on 01/18/2020 3:36:34 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: upsdriver

You have no standing to introduce evidence if you first haven’t established probable cause. They had NOTHING.

Trump and Co. setting a trap is fine if that’s what happened/happening. But I feel like Trump’s lawyers aren’t clear about the unconstitutionality of this whole proceeding from the very start.


24 posted on 01/18/2020 3:40:53 PM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: laxcoach
Andrew JOHNSON.

Andrew Jackson was Trump 1.0 - killed the National Bank.

25 posted on 01/18/2020 3:41:10 PM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Politicians don't seek solutions, they seek problems.)
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To: goldstategop

Something is uncontitutional only when the SCOTUS says it is...


26 posted on 01/18/2020 3:41:35 PM PST by RonnG (')
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To: iontheball

“there is no record they even tried to bring a petition.”

Which goes back to my statement. It would have been a fools errand and when the SC said no it would have helped the rats.


27 posted on 01/18/2020 3:46:17 PM PST by gibsonguy
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To: jazusamo

All right!!!!! This is what we needed to hear/read!!!!


28 posted on 01/18/2020 3:46:48 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: jazusamo

This is a trial. It will be concluded in November.
We are the jury.


29 posted on 01/18/2020 3:46:58 PM PST by Ouchthatonehurt
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To: gibsonguy
‘The SCOTUS should throw it out as illegitimate”

Does Scotus even have any authority over this, other than the Chief Justice overseeing the Senate portion?

The Constitution gives the House sole authority to impeach; right, wrong, or indifferent. I'm certainly not happy with how this is all playing out, but let's not try to reinvent the Constitution to suit our needs, as that is what liberals do.

At this stage, it's all up to the Pubbies in the Senate, which should worry all of us.

30 posted on 01/18/2020 3:53:31 PM PST by voicereason (The RNC is like the "one-night stand" you wish you could forget.)
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To: voicereason

Yep.


31 posted on 01/18/2020 3:55:26 PM PST by gibsonguy
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To: laxcoach

“Unsavory, overreaching and setting a terrible precedent? Yes. But not unconstitutional.”

I must disagree. The Constitution states that impeachment may be bought against the President for “treason, bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors”. The founding fathers quite deliberately intended in that phrase to make it a very high bar indeed.

What the democrats have relied upon for the articles of impeachment they have introduced fall painfully short of that magnitude And therefor fail to meet constitutional muster.


32 posted on 01/18/2020 3:55:40 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: laxcoach; jazusamo; gibsonguy; goldstategop; usconservative; struggle
Impeachment is a political process.

Yes, but it is described with specific words and phrases in the US Constitution. Some of those being:

Article II Sec 4. "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

This is easily (and rather obviously) interpreted as saying a President can NOT be removed just because the House and Senate do not like him. SCOTUS could reinforce that with a ruling that would serve as clear precedent. It would be MUCH better for SCOTUS to do this now, rather than AFTER, should the President be "convicted" of a non-crime. Imagine the uproar if a President was impeached and removed from office, only for SCOTUS to pull out the constitution and point out the above, simple clause, and invalidate the whole circus.

At this point, it seems highly unlikely that the President will be convicted in the Senate. However, due to the idiocy of Pelosi, we are at a point where something that "goes without saying" needs to be said, and set in precedent. Even if it doesn't happen until AFTER he is acquitted, this argument should go to SCOTUS. Reinforcing the clear language of Article II sec 4 would not only be a huge slapdown of Pelosi, Schiff and Nadler, but it would ERASE Trump's impeachment, deeming it unconstitutional and illegitimate.

33 posted on 01/18/2020 3:57:40 PM PST by ETCM
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To: ETCM

Excellent point and very well said!


34 posted on 01/18/2020 4:05:35 PM PST by jazusamo (Have You Donated to Keep Free Republic Up and Running?)
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To: struggle

The SCOTUS has no authority to “throw out” an impeachment.


35 posted on 01/18/2020 4:08:47 PM PST by Alberta's Child (In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.)
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To: struggle

“...If Bush had put in another Thomas instead of Roberts,...”

When he ran for President, he promised that he would appoint strict constructionists. He was blowing smoke up our back sides.

Bush was an absolute disaster, a fake Christian, a northeastern liberal masquerading as a conservative.


36 posted on 01/18/2020 4:11:50 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: jazusamo
d":^)
37 posted on 01/18/2020 4:12:43 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The Leftistist media and particularly CNN NEWS should come with a ten day supply of Cipro.)
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To: jazusamo

Why are so many republicans going along with this sham?


38 posted on 01/18/2020 4:13:05 PM PST by Bullish (Covfefe Happens)
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To: Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; azishot; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; ..

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39 posted on 01/18/2020 4:13:57 PM PST by bitt (A FRIVOLOUS impeachment vote is a SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY)
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To: struggle

GWBush: a leftwing RINO traitor
Roberts: a leftwing RINO traitor
Thomas: Constitutional Conservative

The entire Bush family is a treasonous collection of traitors.


40 posted on 01/18/2020 4:15:10 PM PST by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" - DAVID HOROWITZ)
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