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New American Civil War:Undermined Constitution; US Headed to a Long Internecine Conflict
The John Batchelor Show ^ | January 17, 2020 | Michael Vlahos on John Batchelor

Posted on 01/20/2020 9:35:04 AM PST by CheshireTheCat

Michael Vlahos, a historian at Johns Hopkins, argues that if one party acts with another party as if we are at war they are "undermining the basis, the foundation, for a shared, collective belief among Americans in a Constitution" rendering it "impossible for one party or another to be considered normal.... and what is to stop that struggle from moving very quickly into the territory of civil war."


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: johnshopkins; michaelvlahos
Podcast of nine minutes. This is the second part of another podcast recorded the same day. This is the more interesting of the two.
1 posted on 01/20/2020 9:35:04 AM PST by CheshireTheCat
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To: CheshireTheCat

Internecine Conflict: Mutually destructive; ruinous or fatal to both sides.
adj.
Characterized by bloodshed or carnage.

The Democrats seem to be willing to risk this. Maybe they think if they start this the population will rise up and support them because Hillary won the popular vote by 3 million....which is the number of illegals that voted in the California Presidential election.


3 posted on 01/20/2020 9:52:17 AM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: antidemoncrat
and what is to stop that struggle from moving very quickly into the territory of civil war."

NOTHING!!!!

4 posted on 01/20/2020 9:57:48 AM PST by Don Corleone (The truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth)
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To: antidemoncrat

“...The Democrats seem to be willing to risk this....”

Of course they are. There has been zero punishment on them for their seditious behavior.

No pain, no repercussions. So they will continue to the point where that occurs.

They launched a damn coup in 2016 against a lawfully and legally elected President. None of them are in jail. They’re laughing at us.

When we said “Lock Her Up”, we meant it; it wasn’t just a campaign slogan.

Yet there she is. Along with Comey, Brennan, etc.

So why would anyone expect them to act any different?


5 posted on 01/20/2020 10:04:27 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: antidemoncrat

I was listening to the news on the radio the other day (for updates on the snow we were expecting), and this newsbimbo reported on Trump’s opposition to a “seawall” between NY and NJ. She described how he said it would be ugly, wouldn’t work, would cost too much, and NYers should “get their mops”. She then proceeded to editorialize on how Trump didn’t mind having a seawall protect his golf course in Ireland, wasn’t opposed to building a wall along the Mexican border, and the cost would be lower than he anticipated.

These pieces of sh!t couldn’t be more openly hateful if they tried - and it is US (who voted for him) that they truly hate; they are not far from the Rwandans inciting the genocide from their radio stations, convincing low-IQ people that this president is the most dangerous, evil person in the world. The guy who shot up the Republicans practicing on the softball field probably believed he was saving the world.

Newswhores should just do their job; shake their arses for their bosses and report facts.


6 posted on 01/20/2020 10:06:26 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: CheshireTheCat

Our enemies are cheering - Russia, China, North Korea, et al.


7 posted on 01/20/2020 10:19:51 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: CheshireTheCat; All
Career Democrats and RINOs would disappear in November if patriots enlightened the misguided voters who keep on reelecting them with the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers imo, especially the fed’s limited power to appropriate taxes.

Remember in November!

MAGA! Now KAGA! (Keep America Great Always!)


8 posted on 01/20/2020 10:25:58 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: elpadre

No there are not cheering. The Russian government just resigned and China was finally brought down to earth in a trade deal. All governments are failing horribly worldwide. This is the death of human self governance. Someone as evil and stupid as Pelosi should never ever have the remote possibility of ruling over humans. We are rejecting these horrible creatures.


9 posted on 01/20/2020 11:00:22 AM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

10 posted on 01/20/2020 11:27:07 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: NFHale

AND, most are parasites who have nothing to lose.


11 posted on 01/20/2020 11:38:46 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: CheshireTheCat
The better solution is to divide the country into two countries.

Who wants to 'win' a bitter civil war and still have progressives in OUR country? YUCK. The 'win' is having them OUT of OUR country and us out of their country.

Split the country peacefully. Appeal to their vanity.

Progressives can have:

Abortion up until two days AFTER birth (in case the kid is ugly)

Bans on all Fossil Fuels

All 'illegals' who can make it to their shores get free heath care - even for their parents and relatives ... who are all egible for citizenship (while still living in their homeland)

Food stamps the day any illegal crosses the border - AND a promise of a $15 an hour job...

Reparations FINALLY for ALL black citizens AND people of any color... even if their ancestors weren't slaves. Why quibble?

The 'press' WILL be owned by the democrat party - the only party allowed in 'Progressive United States' (PUS)

Jail and prison doors opened - and cops disarmed. It's all 'racist' after all, right?

All citizens can be disarmed... that'll stop ALL 'gun violence'... right? Everything liberals and progressives want - a few 're-education centers if any deplorables who didn't leave when they could... would be icing on their cake.

And what do we ask in return?

Just that they split the price of a Wall between our two countries so when their people try to escape they can't come here to our country - Conservative United States of America (CUS)

12 posted on 01/20/2020 12:08:15 PM PST by GOPJ (Will MSNBC bimbos go moist talking to Lev Parnas like they did with Michael Avenatti?)
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To: SgtHooper

“...parasites who have nothing to lose...”

Everybody has “something to lose”. It might not be immediately apparent, but it’s there.

You find that lever and you apply pressure to it.

Then watch them rat each other out.


13 posted on 01/20/2020 12:11:38 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Jack Black

Ping


14 posted on 01/20/2020 12:12:17 PM PST by TADSLOS (You know why you can enjoy a day at the Zoo? Because walls work.)
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In a sense, we are already in a Civil War. The left with a multitude of "Sanctuary Cities" and States. Now the right is joining the movement with Sanctuary Counties.

I consider myself as a Patriot of the Republic and have watched the Republic being torn asunder long enough to believe we are headed for a large Secession. Only this time around it won't be geographical. It will be the "rest of the counties/states" cutting ties with the mega metro complexes in the country. Who knows what it will look like and if we could get there without violence.

15 posted on 01/20/2020 12:26:17 PM PST by ImpBill (Conservative voter sans political Party!)
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To: ImpBill

Take Highland County back!


16 posted on 01/20/2020 12:27:40 PM PST by Leep (Everyday is Trump Day!)
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To: antidemoncrat
Internecine Conflict: Mutually destructive; ruinous or fatal to both sides.
adj.
Characterized by bloodshed or carnage.

The Democrats seem to be willing to risk this.

The Democrats are willing to risk this because their goal is much more focused than mutual destruction. They are intentionally pushing for the total destruction of the the United States of America.

Through the years since the Berkeley counterculture riots, 1968 Chicago, etc., the Leftists have been pressing a continuous fifth column through our nation. The recent events only reflect their belief that they have almost won. When we all snap and start lining them up on the streets they will claim victory. Yet, when they are all history it will only be a pyrrhic victory for them. They will not be around to ever vote "Socialist Democrat" again.

17 posted on 01/20/2020 12:52:48 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: CheshireTheCat

Trump’s re-election will spark a meltdown on the left and they will resort to violence. I look for urban riots, terrorist bombings and even political assassinations. Foreign terror groups will find ready partners with leftist groups. This violence will be put down and the perpetrators will face quick justice.


18 posted on 01/20/2020 3:25:18 PM PST by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: CheshireTheCat

Disunited States - bump for later....


19 posted on 01/20/2020 6:59:52 PM PST by indthkr
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