Posted on 01/22/2020 7:15:33 AM PST by edwinland
Barely two weeks after Donald Trump took office, Eric Ciaramella – the CIA analyst whose name was recently linked in a tweet by the president and mentioned by lawmakers as the anonymous “whistleblower" who touched off Trump's impeachment – was overheard in the White House discussing with another staffer how to remove the newly elected president from office, according to former colleagues.
Sources told RealClearInvestigations the staffer with whom Ciaramella was speaking was Sean Misko. Both were Obama administration holdovers working in the Trump White House on foreign policy and national security issues. And both expressed anger over Trump’s new “America First” foreign policy, a sea change from President Obama’s approach to international affairs.
“Just days after he was sworn in they were already talking about trying to get rid of him,” said a White House colleague who overheard their conversation.
“They weren’t just bent on subverting his agenda,” the former official added. “They were plotting to actually have him removed from office.”
Misko left the White House last summer to join House impeachment manager Adam Schiff’s committee, where sources say he offered “guidance” to the whistleblower, who has been officially identified only as an intelligence officer in a complaint against Trump filed under whistleblower laws. Misko then helped run the impeachment inquiry based on that complaint as a top investigator for congressional Democrats.
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A military staffer detailed to the NSC, who was seated directly in front of Ciaramella and Misko during the meeting, confirmed hearing them talk about toppling Trump during their private conversation, which the source said lasted about one minute. The crowd was preparing to get up to leave the room at the time.
“After Flynn briefed [the staff] about what ‘America first’ foreign policy means, Ciaramella turned to Misko and commented, ‘We need to take him out,’ ” the staffer recalled. “And Misko replied, ‘Yeah, we need to do everything we can to take out the president.’ “
Added the military detailee, who spoke on condition of anonymity: “By ‘taking him out,’ they meant removing him from office by any means necessary. They were triggered by Trump’s and Flynn’s vision for the world. This was the first ‘all hands’ [staff meeting] where they got to see Trump’s national security team, and they were huffing and puffing throughout the briefing any time Flynn said something they didn’t like about ‘America First.’ ”
He said he also overheard Ciaramella telling Misko, referring to Trump, ‘We can’t let him enact this foreign policy.’ “
Alarmed by their conversation, the military staffer immediately reported what he heard to his superiors.
“It was so shocking that they were so blatant and outspoken about their opinion,” he recalled. “They weren’t shouting it, but they didn’t seem to feel the need to hide it.”
"Alarmed by their conversation, the military staffer immediately reported what he heard to his superiors."
I'm sure Alan Dershowitz already has a copy of that report.
If I were a conspiracy theorist, I'd say they were "tagged" with a "watch and follow" order to see who else would be exposed.
Games people play.
Illustrates why the White House staff should have been purged of holdovers from the Kenyanesian Usurpation.
As much as I believe that something like this really happened, it’s useless without corroboration.
I wonder who the military superior was? Vindman?
These folks are the ones who need to be called as witnesses, if we go down that road.
He reported it to his superior.
Just as likely the superior said, “Okay, I’ll take care of it” and chucked it in a can.
Or, he could have passed it to a civilian counterpart who said “Okay, I’ll take care of it” and chucked it in a can.
Conspiracy: A criminal conspiracy exists when two or more people agree to commit almost any unlawful act, then take some action toward its completion. The action taken need not itself be a crime, but it must indicate that those involved in the conspiracy knew of the plan and intended to break the law. A person may be convicted of conspiracy even if the actual crime was never committed.
https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/conspiracy.html
My thoughts exactly.
Subpoena is always an option and compel testimony under oath.
“Alarmed by their conversation, the military staffer immediately reported what he heard to his superiors.”
Corroboration should exist
Ergo, who will be the first person to identify the impeachment and preceding events as a criminal conspiracy to remove a duly elected president, then call material witnesses to the conspiracy? Ciaramella, this Misko guy, John Brennan, Clapper...
This might seem to be a big deal to us folks who don’t really know what the hell is actually going on. When you know what AG Barr does it all makes sense.
White House colleague who overheard their conversation... the military staffer immediately reported what he heard to his superiors.
So why is this coming out now and not back in 2017 and why didn’t the “superior’s” ring the alarm bell?
I would not doubt that they would have an audio tape of this conversation if it took place in the White House.
why have child rapists and caught-traitors and
seditionists allowed to have ANY say in this gov’t.
they should be at the end of a rope.
I’ve come to believe that were I ever elected president, which I KNOW is never ever going to happen, I’d have everyone in my appointed staff given lie detector drugs and hooked up to a polygraph and asked questions like: whom directs policy in this administration. Any waiver on the needle between the President and something else is an immediate lethal shot of fentanyl. Leaving snakes like this guy wandering around shows an naive belief that the staffs here believe in our form of government in that they will follow the legal orders of the elected leaders.
Ukraine “witness” - bump for later....
Yup, once one agrees to the plan, once an overt act is committed, like reporting false info, the whole group goes for conspiracy even if the plot never gets farther off the ground.
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