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Hawaii's New Asset Forfeiture Rules Take Effect Jan. 17
Hawaii Public Radio ^

Posted on 01/28/2020 12:47:43 PM PST by nickcarraway

New requirements will apply to local enforcement authorities in seizing cars and other property of criminals under long-awaited asset forfeiture rules issued by the Hawaii attorney general on Dec. 31.

The rules take effect Jan. 17 and require county prosecutors to describe the crimes that justify the seizure of private property under state statutes and to petition the attorney general for approval.

The seizure program, known as civil asset forfeiture, is used in all 50 states to confiscate financial and other property of criminals. Some states require a criminal conviction before the property can be taken but most jurisdictions, including Hawaii, require police only demonstrate probable cause to initiate a seizure.

Hawaii's asset forfeiture program has been in place for over 30 years, but administrative rules had not been previously issued.

Last year, Gov. David Ige vetoed a measure that supporters said would have placed needed restrictions on law enforcement agencies' use of asset forfeitures in response to reported abuses. Among other limitations, the bill would have required the sale of seized property to proceed only after owners were convicted of felonies.

Ige said H.B. 748 was too restrictive and that enough protections existed under current laws. But he called on the attorney general to issue the administrative rules for the ongoing asset program by the end of 2019.

The rules spell out a process for owners and their attorneys to seek a return of seized property if they believe the assets were wrongfully taken.

Proceeds from public auctions of seized properties are distributed to state and local agencies, including county police departments. Critics of the asset forfeiture program had sought to funnel the proceeds into the state's general fund.

State House Speaker Scott Saiki said after the governor's veto of H.B. 748 that the bill would likely be modified and reintroduced in some form during this year's legislative session.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: assetforfeiture; hawaii

1 posted on 01/28/2020 12:47:43 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
... require county prosecutors to describe the crimes that justify the seizure of private property under state statutes and to petition the attorney general for approval.

That's not reform at all. It's not even a speed bump.

2 posted on 01/28/2020 12:50:17 PM PST by Spirochete (GOP: Gutless Old Party)
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To: nickcarraway

Hey, Haole, all you stuff belong us.


3 posted on 01/28/2020 12:54:22 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: nickcarraway

Outright theft. Like in a banana republic.


4 posted on 01/28/2020 1:04:26 PM PST by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: Buckeye McFrog
A t-shirt popular with locals reads: My ancestors killed Captain Cooke. My response is: your ancestors' progeny dance for coins.
5 posted on 01/28/2020 1:05:36 PM PST by coaster123 (XLV-MMXX)
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To: nickcarraway

“The rules take effect Jan. 17 and require county prosecutors to describe the crimes that justify the seizure of private property under state statutes and to petition the attorney general for approval. “

Not good enough. The AG is just another dept/office/branch of the executive authority and the real approval needs to come from at least a judge of a court, and that judge should not be giving their approval without (1) a claim from the police/prosecutor/AG and (2) a hearing, (3) with opportunity for a challenge and defense by the accused.


6 posted on 01/28/2020 1:06:35 PM PST by Wuli
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To: faithhopecharity

What you said.


7 posted on 01/28/2020 1:07:41 PM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point do you at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: Spirochete

It’s much better than now where the officer merely has to SUSPECT that the property was purchased with or associated with illegal drug activity. No crime at all is required.


8 posted on 01/28/2020 1:11:07 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (If gun ownership by private citizens scares DemocRats, the 2nd Amendment is doing its job.)
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To: faithhopecharity
Book 'em, Danno. And take his watch and the keys to his Mercedes while you're at it.


9 posted on 01/28/2020 1:12:05 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: nickcarraway

Sell Hawaii to Japan.


10 posted on 01/28/2020 1:16:33 PM PST by hadaclueonce ( This time I am Deplorable)
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To: nickcarraway

Now you get the option to prove your innocence. Very nice.

Thieving govt vultures. No offense intended to vultures.


11 posted on 01/28/2020 1:31:17 PM PST by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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Came and take it....oh, I forgot, Hawaii is a virtual gun free zone. There you go, give up your guns and get ready to become a victim.


12 posted on 01/28/2020 1:38:18 PM PST by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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To: nickcarraway
The communist-inspired process of asset forfeiture theft of citizens' property gives everyone a clear picture of what life was like when the mythical(?) Robin-of-the-Hood was fighting against King John and his barons...

OTOH, the serfs in those days actually enjoyed greater freedom than the American serfs of today... Except for the theft of their crops, earned money, and virgins, which is even worse today, the serfs then were left more-or-less alone... Totally unlike the perpetual control through hundreds-of-thousands of laws and pervasive thought management that today's serfs are subjected to...

Our Nation's Forefathers are, probably, no longer spinning in their graves over the events of the last 115 years... They are probably too ashamed to continue because of the disgraceful destruction of what they created for us...

13 posted on 01/28/2020 2:33:02 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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To: nickcarraway

With asset forfeiture everyone is a criminal.


14 posted on 01/28/2020 3:07:51 PM PST by webheart
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To: Spirochete

I guess this has been approved by the US and state Supreme Courts. What about “life, liberty, or property without due process of law?”


15 posted on 01/28/2020 3:58:48 PM PST by xxqqzz
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To: webheart
With asset forfeiture everyone is a criminal.

No, no, no! It's just your money and property that are criminals. Isn't that much nicer?

16 posted on 01/28/2020 4:02:03 PM PST by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: nickcarraway
The seizure program . . . is used in all 50 states to confiscate financial and other property of criminals. Some states require a criminal conviction before the property can be taken but most jurisdictions, including Hawaii, require police only demonstrate probable cause to initiate a seizure.

They’re taking property of people who are not, by definition, criminals.

17 posted on 01/29/2020 7:47:38 AM PST by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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