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Navy to overhaul its education system as US advantages erode
The AP ^ | March 2, 2020 | By JENNIFER McDERMOTT

Posted on 03/02/2020 3:35:25 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

PROVIDENCE, R.I. - - The U.S. Navy is overhauling its approach to education because the nation no longer has a massive economic and technological edge over potential adversaries, according to a strategy it is releasing Monday.

The Education for Seapower Strategy 2020, provided to The Associated Press ahead of its release, is the first unified, comprehensive education strategy for the Navy and Marine Corps, said John Kroger, who is implementing the strategy as the Navy’s first chief learning officer.

It is very much a response to the nation’s geopolitical position in the world today, versus the advantages it had at the end of the Cold War, Kroger said, noting China’s economic strength and investments in 5G networks, energy storage and other major technologies that matter for war-fighting.

The Navy wants to create a naval community college to provide associate’s degrees to tens of thousands of young sailors and Marines, at no cost to them. It plans to unify the schools within the existing naval university system, similar to a state university system, and invest in them, as well as enact new policies to encourage and reward those who pursue professional military and civilian education.

“In a world where potential adversaries are peers economically and technologically, how do you win?” Kroger said in an interview. “We think we can out-fight potential opponents because we can out-think them. In order to do that, we must have, by far, the best military education program in the world.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; military; navy
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1 posted on 03/02/2020 3:35:25 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Long overdue. The air force has had this for years.


2 posted on 03/02/2020 3:43:19 AM PST by OIFVeteran
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To: OIFVeteran

No offense, but China’s economic strength is based on our over dependence on them. That just may have just gotten killed by a virus.


3 posted on 03/02/2020 3:56:07 AM PST by FlipWilson
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To: OIFVeteran

Since 1972.

Very popular program over the years.


4 posted on 03/02/2020 4:10:44 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Isn’t this finally a subtle recognition that the shortcomings (misdirection) of our public K-12 educational system is, or is about to become a national security issue?


5 posted on 03/02/2020 4:32:12 AM PST by frog in a pot (Trump is in a street fight for the soul of our nation; he deserves our prayers and a share of luck.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sounds good.

As long as it isn’t a new version of “no sailor left behind” that preaches diversity, loving all cultures, and worships the gods of climate change.


6 posted on 03/02/2020 4:40:12 AM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Isn’t what he is really saying is enlistees don’t know sh*t when they get them in the system any longer! K-12 education sucks in America!! Go away Dept of Ed and it’s teachers!


7 posted on 03/02/2020 4:55:21 AM PST by ldish (Have had enough...you??????)
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To: MV=PY

The US military has gone all in on diversity and PC. Doubt this gets the best force. I see females airman, or is that air persons now, at my nearby airbase that could not possibly pass a legitimate fitness test. Not sure how they stay on active duty.


8 posted on 03/02/2020 5:00:16 AM PST by Stevenfo
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To: frog in a pot
Isn’t this finally a subtle recognition that the shortcomings (misdirection) of our public K-12 educational system is, or is about to become a national security issue?

Why, yes. Yes it is. Junior College = Remedial Math

9 posted on 03/02/2020 5:03:12 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
What needs to be done is an overhaul of government schools. Stop teaching liberal tripe, having classes on bullying, and every damn microaggression. Then you will have hours each day to teach, reading, writing, history, mathematics and science. Don't teach anything that has the word, "studies" in it.

Yeah, I know, it's not that easy. For instance, you need to figure out what to do with the 98% of liberal and illiterate educators.

10 posted on 03/02/2020 5:06:51 AM PST by RubinBoomer (Please be nice. I am new here. I'm open to doing things the FR way, just need to know.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I have an idea. Why don’t you start with teaching your ship drivers how not to run into each other?


11 posted on 03/02/2020 5:11:36 AM PST by paddles ("The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." Tacitus)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If they teach American traditional values then great...if they go nutty liberal crap then don’t waste the money...


12 posted on 03/02/2020 5:29:16 AM PST by GOPJ ( http://www.tinyurl.com/cvirusmap https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/usmap.htm)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I guess they need to teach Marines to pull the paper off their crayons.....


13 posted on 03/02/2020 5:47:26 AM PST by Romans Nine
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To: paddles

Good. It only took eleven posts to hit the nail squarely on the head. It is called S E A M A N S H I P and appears to be severely lacking. But what do I know, I’m Air Force, with naval connections.


14 posted on 03/02/2020 5:48:59 AM PST by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Ok, let me weigh anchor on this.

First, I am NOT a believer in “muh China.” I suggest everyone look at Peter Zeihan’s books, “The Absent Superpower” or “The Accidental Superpower.” Whatever the ChiComs build, simply getting them to the open water in the Pacific would be a massive task. I haven’t wargamed this, but between Taiwan, Japan, the Philippines, Korea, I’d think land based air and land-based missiles, not to mention those forces’ navies would probably eat at at least 50% of the Chicom fleet.

And the 7th Fleet awaits.

HOWEVER, what everyone forgets about commie stuff is that aside from the T-34 in WW II (build on an American designed chassis) and the AK-47, commie stuff tends to break at really high rates. Something about socialist built stuff that isn’t overall as high a quality. If a real-world mechanical failure is applied (as we never did to ICBMs from Russia), you’re probably looking at under 40% of the Chicom fleet making it to open water.

BUT . . . the real issue with the US Navy and education is none of this.

It’s the fact that ALL the service academies have been overrun by SJW profs and virtue signaling that has taken priority over strict war-fighting. Moreover, military grads are finding it hard to get advanced degrees because “traditional” universities a) no longer have military history programs, and b) don’t want these guys.

Enter Liberty University, which created an on-line PhD program in military history that is the LARGEST IN THE COUNTRY. (Liberty is the largest on-line university in the U.S., with 90,000 students, more than U. of Phoenix . . . and Liberty offers traditional courses in history, English, philosophy, government as well as in tech).

The Navy has more to fear from inadequate SJW education than from the Chicoms.


15 posted on 03/02/2020 5:49:00 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: frog in a pot
Isn’t this finally a subtle recognition that the shortcomings (misdirection) of our public K-12 educational system is, or is about to become a national security issue?

Not if their model is the Community College of the Air Force. That degree granting program is recognition for the level of technical training needed for qualification in doing a job.

Because of duty requirements over nine years, I had gathered over 90 hours of credit but no local colleges would recognize enough of the hours to grant a degree. IMO they wanted the money.

In my case it allowed me to consolidate all of my previous college hours into one program that granted an associates degree. Once I got the accredited degree from the USAF I completed my BSET inside of a year

16 posted on 03/02/2020 6:13:46 AM PST by pfflier
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The person leading this is a Harvard retread. I smell a rat.


17 posted on 03/02/2020 6:14:26 AM PST by devane617 (Kyrie Eleison, where I'm going, will you follow?)
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To: RubinBoomer

BINGO! Our DIL is going to nursing school. Her math teacher explains things so poorly she can’t understand it. Hubby who spent nearly 40 yrs teaching heavy Math, computers, and Electronics had to explain what is maybe 4th grade fraction division to her. She had not retained that knowledge and teacher was using new words than she learned in the first place. 3 hrs latter, she was doing them in her head.

He taught SISCO to the would be instructors. Ended up Chair of his Department. 18 yrs teaching in the Navy when not at Sea, 20 yrs Community College.


18 posted on 03/02/2020 6:31:12 AM PST by GailA (Intractable Pain, a Subset of Chronic pain Last a Life TIME at Level 10.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

How do you teach them for an associates degree when they don’t even have the basics? I have been amazed for a long time that the military can manage to train as well as it does based on my experiences with adult edumacation in industry. The kids don’t even have basic math and problem solving skills let alone relevant and relational life experiences.


19 posted on 03/02/2020 6:33:12 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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To: pfflier
You offer a good example of what has been available in the recent past. The various branches have for decades offered excellent branch-specific near state-of-the-art technical training.

However, this ...first unified, comprehensive educational system... sounds to me (one with no doubt an obsolete perspective) as addressing the preparatory level prior to such tech training. I.e., that it will include pretty much what today's high schools should be teaching.

Wouldn't mind being incorrect on that point.

20 posted on 03/02/2020 8:42:58 AM PST by frog in a pot (Trump is in a street fight for the soul of our nation; he deserves our prayers and a share of luck.)
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