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To: rintintin
He testified to Congress that the death rate for the coronavirus is ten times that of the seasonal flu, a claim without any scientific basis.

Yeah, right.

The influenza typically has a case fatality rate of about 0.1%. The coronavirus is approaching 4% fatality. That is a LOT higher than the flu. This, along with the easy transmissibility, makes Covid-19 very concerning.

I would expect a medical doctor to know a little more about infectious disease.

On Mar 15, there were 162,687 cases and 6,065 deaths. On Mar 16, those numbers increased to 182,405 cases and 7,154 deaths. That is the highest daily jump in cases and deaths that I have seen since I started keeping a spreadsheet.

I would say that the infection control measures are completely appropriate. No one is immune, so without controls, the disease would just sweep through and kill millions.

8 posted on 03/16/2020 11:17:47 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: exDemMom
That is the highest daily jump in cases and deaths that I have seen since I started keeping a spreadsheet.

Unprecedented! Hahahahahahaha!

13 posted on 03/16/2020 11:22:13 PM PDT by Arones (When Leftists are in a minority, then they look for other ways to win.)
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To: exDemMom

” The coronavirus is approaching 4% fatality. “

We don’t know that because we don’t know how large the infected population is.

When they say 4 percent fatality rate, they’re saying 4 percent of the people with symptoms. Yet if hundreds of thousands of people have the virus but don’t exhibit symptoms, then the number of deaths is a much smaller percentage of the overall number of cases.

Problem is, we haven’t tested many people - and even now the government isn’t only going to give tests to people with symptoms. So we’re now trying to find out how many people have the virus but have no symptoms.


15 posted on 03/16/2020 11:24:33 PM PDT by rintintin (qu)
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To: exDemMom

The influenza typically has a case fatality rate of about 0.1%. The coronavirus is approaching 4% fatality.

4%? Well I heard that 83% of statistics are made up right on the spot. Spanish Flu was about 2.5%. The corona Y2K cold is most assuredly NOT 4%.


16 posted on 03/16/2020 11:26:37 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: exDemMom
You can’t convince the crowd that says nothing is wrong and President Trump is a fool or liar. Remember in their mind it’s about what they financially lost in the marker. Idiot's.

Italy cases should be alarming but noooooo. It’s just a cold with evil big gov grabbing power.

19 posted on 03/16/2020 11:28:54 PM PDT by wgmalabama (Piss on China. They nuked US and Europe with a bio weapon. Payback time.)
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To: exDemMom

https://virus.stanford.edu/uda/

Out of Stanford 2.5% Spanish Flu. And you say this corona cold is 60% more deadly? Please... not seeing it. As for more spreadable, in two weeks I’m not seeing exponential spreading. I am seeing something that would normally not even be noticed.

The regular flu this year was just as contagious and was orders of magnitude more deadly. This is a politically induced, MSM media and social media driven mass hysteria panic and nothing else.


23 posted on 03/16/2020 11:33:15 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: exDemMom

“I would expect a medical doctor to know a little more about infectious disease.”

Think about what you said. Think it all the way through. Maybe it’s -you- that is wrong.


29 posted on 03/16/2020 11:35:14 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: exDemMom

If this, if that, millions die, blah blah. Nonsense bs expert whatever you are.

There is no qualified medical expert on this subject. The source data isn’t reliable whatsoever


47 posted on 03/16/2020 11:46:57 PM PDT by Professional
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To: exDemMom

deaths / known cases /= accurate death rate. There are many more cases that have not been tested or diagnosed where people had little or no symptoms and recovered on their own.


69 posted on 03/17/2020 12:22:54 AM PDT by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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To: exDemMom

There’s a fundamental flaw in your statistics. We know that the vast majority of infected have few or no symptoms. You write that there were 162,687 cases on March 15. Really? You really believe we have such a precise world wide count of everyone exposed to this virus? If so, that’s ridiculous.

You also wrote that no one is immune to this virus. Nearly 7 billion people on this planet and you know for a fact none are immune? Again, that’s a ridiculous assertion. If 80% are essentially asymptomatic or have very mild symptoms—another reported statistic we can’t really know for sure—that sounds like pretty good immunity to me.

Now I’m not saying this virus is harmless. What I am saying is there are all sorts of unknowns at this point. I think this is what Ron Paul was pointing out. People’s opinions are not scientific fact.


92 posted on 03/17/2020 12:54:25 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: exDemMom; All
The influenza typically has a case fatality rate of about 0.1%. The coronavirus is approaching 4% fatality.

Not true. According to the most detailed statistics, from South Korea, it had a 0.7% fatality rate. Still higher than flu, but mainly because of a higher rate among the elderly.

The Diamond Princess stats are in line with this:
3,711 people on board
705 tested positive for the coronavirus
6 died
All 6 were more than 70 years old.
Fatality rate: 0.85 percent.

The hysteria is way overblown. Keep grandma away from Wuhan Flu. Otherwise, don't worry too much about it.

168 posted on 03/17/2020 2:40:57 AM PDT by montag813
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To: exDemMom
The coronavirus is approaching 4% fatality.

An unborn human faces about a 25% rate.

193 posted on 03/17/2020 3:57:18 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: exDemMom
No one is immune, so without controls, the disease would just sweep through and kill millions.

According to our 'experts' that amount will STILL die; just be spread out over time.

194 posted on 03/17/2020 3:58:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: exDemMom
"The influenza typically has a case fatality rate of about 0.1%. The coronavirus is approaching 4% fatality. That is a LOT higher than the flu. This, along with the easy transmissibility, makes Covid-19 very concerning."

Ok, let's keep it real. They can't know the fatality rate without testing EVERYONE. They are now only testing people showing symptoms that complain about them enough to go get tested. On top of that, there is a scarcity of tests.

There is hard evidence that there are carriers who present minor or no symptoms who will never be tested. All of these people would go into the denominator of the fatality rate.

No one should quote such fatality statistics as "facts." The fact is, we simply don't know what the fatality rate is, but it is definitely lower than what we can measure at the moment.

224 posted on 03/17/2020 5:35:49 AM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: exDemMom

I’m guessing that once testing goes mainstream, the occurrences will increase a lot but the deaths, not so much, which will bring that percentage down.


280 posted on 03/17/2020 9:37:53 AM PDT by stylin19a (((2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)))
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