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To: DUMBGRUNT
The problem with Convalescent Blood Plasma (CBP) is the possible transmission of the active virus. The doner plasma is injected into the subject.

Well then you do not understand what convalescent plasma is. Once you've recovered and develop immunity you are clear of the virus. It no longer exists and cannot remain in your system because the antibodies will attack and kill it.

You also don't seem to understand the theory of vaccination, although you are not alone believe me. Perhaps, if I give you a brief overview of how your body develops immunity it may help you and others to understand why a vaccine is far inferior to natural immunity.

When a virus enters your body (let's refer to it as the antigen), it will immediately seek out certain tissue cells to enter. There they begin to replicate and move on to the next cell etc. Your immunity is triggered when enough cells have been invaded for you to begin to have symptoms (threshold). Once your immunity kicks in it battles the invading virus until it is overcome and eliminated. Those who are immunocompromised may not be able to overcome the antigen and their symptoms become more serious. The antibodies formed are specific to that LIVE, REPLICATING VIRUS (antigen) and they are lifelong. Meaning if ever that pathogen (antigen) enters your body again it is immediately eliminated.

A vaccine, on the other hand, is an artificial stimulation of your immune system by using either a killed, attenuated or maybe even just a specific protein from the virus as the antigen. Because these are inert substances that are incapable of entering and replicating in your cells, your body does not perceive it as a threat. You may produce antibodies to those substances, but those antibodies are not going to be able to handle the live organism as well as naturally acquired antibodies.

Do not confuse a vaccine with plasma therapy as they are exact opposites. A vaccine is the ANTIGEN to attempt to stimulate nonexistent antibody. The plasma therapy is the ANTIBODY already formed and proven to kill the virus. Does that make sense?

You could sort of look at it like the difference between feeding your baby breast milk or formula. That which is produced naturally by the body is far superior to an artificially produced substitute.

You are fooling yourself if you think these vaccines are less risky than convalescent therapy. The vaccine does not only contain the antigen but various adjuvants, particularly in the multivalent flu (containing more than one strain of the flu) or multiple pathogens such as MMR, DPT etc.

The point is the tests we are speaking of are NOT preparing you to receive plasma therapy. They are to detect if you have been previously exposed and developed those antibodies naturally and are thus protected from the disease. In addition, if you're physically capable you could become a donor of this plasma.

19 posted on 04/03/2020 11:04:24 AM PDT by Shethink13 (there are 0 electoral votes in the state of denial)
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To: Shethink13

The plasma therapy is the ANTIBODY already formed and proven to kill the virus. Does that make sense?

Also, how many other virus antibodies via injections is our serum carry/covering from the flu shots, pneumonia shots, shingles, polio vaccines and the various virus we bumped into in our life time and possibly our ancestors’ lifetime?

Could our virus load be harmful if we donated blood to make serum to protect others as an injection?

Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us.

Please ping me when your post on this subject.

Thanks,
Dave


20 posted on 04/04/2020 7:10:53 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (NYers fleeing NY are presumed to be infected. They should be tested/quarantined in any other state!)
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To: Shethink13

The presence of immune globulin in an infected person does not ensure a viral load of zero. (Could be sero-positive for AB and PCR+ for virus.


22 posted on 04/04/2020 11:31:48 AM PDT by Trumpocrat (Lib Fairytale "All peoples have equal talent. Whites [ or Chinese etc] hold the others down.")
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To: Shethink13

“a brief overview of how your body develops immunity it may help you and others to understand why a vaccine is far inferior to natural immunity.”

Thank you for taking the time to explain the differences.
And I never wondered why vaccinations need boosters, that clears it up some.

I do not want to impose on your time, but have to ask why vaccines dominate the market over Convalescent Blood Plasma?

You have been very generous in explaining this technical subject.
I would like to reciprocate with a fun bit of history.

For Vietnam, Uncle Sam insisted on a long list of vaccinations.
The most dreaded one on the list was called gamma globulin for hepatitis, very uncomfortable for a week or more! DO NOT SIT DOWN!

Legend had it that it was injected with a square needle!!
Most who experienced this misfortune tend to believe it!

I later heard that it an intramuscular injection causing the huge discomfort.
But you probably already knew all this.

Thank You
D. Grunt


23 posted on 04/04/2020 6:44:20 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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