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How Trump Has Pretzled the ‘Post-Truth’ Academic Left
American Thjinker.com ^ | April 8, 2020 | Luke Andrews

Posted on 04/08/2020 5:56:24 AM PDT by Kaslin

It’s often said that most of what the academic elites call “philosophy” is nothing but some underutilized minds worrying themselves about questions that common-sense folk find obvious. The saying came to mind as I listened recently to some of these folks straining to fit their various theories to the Age of Trump. More precisely, they were double-helixing themselves trying to explain why the amoral, relativist, truth-denying theories they’ve championed for so long are actually good reasons for hating the supposedly amoral, relativist, truth-defying current President.

Listening to this theorizing crystallized (at least for this initially reluctant Trump supporter) why President Trump is indispensable.

One of the philosophical exchanges concerned the allegedly inscrutable “problem of the self,” of explaining how we can say a human being remains the same person over time even though one’s physical cells are all lost and replaced many times throughout life. Yes, this actually can pose a conundrum, if you reject out of hand the existence of all supernatural entities including the soul and God, as the elites generally do.

This problem of the self raises moral issues. If you don’t know when a person’s selfhood begins or ends, how can you judge whether that person is moral or immoral? Sure, they say, Hitler slaughtered six million or so human beings, but wasn’t he also an animal lover who practiced vegetarianism and was kind to his pets?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: academia; ethics; media; msm; philosophy; potus; presidenttrump
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1 posted on 04/08/2020 5:56:24 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I have been all all over the world, both in and out of the military.

I ask these young folks, with brains of mush, does evil exist? I have seen it firsthand.

If they answer no, then then have them explain Stalin, Hitler. Pol Pot, Mao, etc.

If yes, then good must exist too. And, therefore, a moral code. Where does that come from.

Usually you will hear the answer “The golden rule” or treat others as you want to be treated.

The don’t even know that is a quote from Jesus from the Bible.


2 posted on 04/08/2020 6:03:53 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with islamic terrorists - they want to die for allah and we want to kill them.)
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To: Kaslin

Not only are facts irrelevant now, but contradictory lies can be embraced at the same time. The left has fine tuned the art of exploiting human ignorance.


3 posted on 04/08/2020 6:04:42 AM PDT by Spok
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To: Kaslin

The Left is just fundamentally dishonest. They will say anything at all as long as they think it leads to more power for them.

They will ridicule you for your belief in objective truth.
They will also ridicule you for your “crazy ideas” which fly in the face of the objective truth that they hold so dear.

It doesn’t matter. They just want to win. It’s Calvin Ball.


4 posted on 04/08/2020 6:08:44 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yes!
The example that always comes to mind is when they argue for abortion, and against the death penalty.
Rational thinking is means nothing to them, in their drive to tyranny.


5 posted on 04/08/2020 6:14:50 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... (Had I brought Christ with me, the outcome would have been different. Dr.Eric Cunningham)
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To: Kaslin

Not only is this President indispensable, those treetards made him possible.

A reaction is setting in on agenda “science” and the shredding of values of long-standing significance and usefulness.


6 posted on 04/08/2020 6:16:50 AM PDT by Migraine
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To: thesearethetimes...

Oops too much editing - no final read through.
Sigh.

Rational thinking means nothing to them, as they drive for tyranny.


7 posted on 04/08/2020 6:17:12 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... (Had I brought Christ with me, the outcome would have been different. Dr.Eric Cunningham)
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To: 2banana

Just because an observation is in the Bible doesn’t mean it originated there. The do unto others policy is the building block of any social contract that allows humans to cooperate for their survival. It doesn’t require a Supreme Being in order to be discovered or implemented.


8 posted on 04/08/2020 6:23:03 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Let me ask this then

Are valuations of things, like, say, chopping off little children’s arms, basically neutral? There’s no underlying sense of what is good and what is evil, that is shared across all humanity? Or if there is, where the heck did that come from?

What survival advantage led selflessness, or abhorrence of the torture of innocents, to an evolutionary advantage?

Apologies to C.S. Lewis, ‘Mere Chistianity”


9 posted on 04/08/2020 6:29:28 AM PDT by Strident (< null >)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Historical, the “golden rule” is no where else documented.

Most of the world then, and today, is screw the other guy before he screws you.

And, as documented in the Torah and Koran.


10 posted on 04/08/2020 6:32:53 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with islamic terrorists - they want to die for allah and we want to kill them.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Then it's time to punch their lights out. The Left understands that. A Catholic school nun once told me a very long time ago( I was a real smart aleck as a kid) “Young man, never discount the spiritually transforming experience of pain''. I never forgot that lesson.
11 posted on 04/08/2020 6:37:50 AM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: 2banana

“Do unto others- and then run’’.- Benny Hill.


12 posted on 04/08/2020 6:38:48 AM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: Kaslin
It’s often said that most of what the academic elites call “philosophy” is nothing but some underutilized minds worrying themselves about questions that common-sense folk find obvious.

Well, it's not said often enough for yours truly.

13 posted on 04/08/2020 6:44:36 AM PDT by gloryblaze
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To: 2banana
I have been all all over the world, both in and out of the military. I ask these young folks, with brains of mush, does evil exist? I have seen it firsthand. If they answer no, then then have them explain Stalin, Hitler. Pol Pot, Mao, etc. If yes, then good must exist too. And, therefore, a moral code. Where does that come from. Usually you will hear the answer “The golden rule” or treat others as you want to be treated. The don’t even know that is a quote from Jesus from the Bible.

Partner, these academic folk do not have any idea of how many folks they killed and these leaders that you mentioned are responsible for millions upon millions of deaths. It is so sad when you start thinking about all of these deaths.

Fidel Castro even had Che Guevara be an executioner and he shot most folks in the head plus Che is responsible for executing around 30,000 folks. Do they young folk know these little facts. Raul Castro who is the current leader is responsible for a lot of these deaths also.

We have not mentioned Hitler and other irresponsible so called leaders who were put in charge of executions in their country.

14 posted on 04/08/2020 6:47:39 AM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (God Bless Texas...)
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To: jmacusa

Ah, the good old days when nuns where more interested in spiritual, rather than secular teachings.

BTW, I got my share of “spiritually transferring experience of pain”.


15 posted on 04/08/2020 6:48:52 AM PDT by NTHockey (My rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: 2banana

A simple search of “golden rule in other cultures” proves that wrong. It shows up in most cultures in one form or another. Sometimes it’s phrased in the negative form, such as “if you don’t want it done to you, don’t do it to others,” but it’s a common observation.


16 posted on 04/08/2020 6:50:55 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: Strident

Given that the Bible authorized the Jews periodically to wipe out other ethnicities, I would say that if you want to make the case for evil being relative, the Bible is more useful than not.


17 posted on 04/08/2020 6:54:43 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: Kaslin
if you reject out of hand the existence of all supernatural entities including the soul and God

Postmodernist leftards replace the soul with a multiplicity of selves that are socially, culturally, and situationally constructed. Each self is a flux of its own whims, interests, needs, and desires.

This idea negates the idea of human nature as a stable entity consisting of a unification of body and soul. And this means there is no boundary between normal and abnormal, right and wrong.

18 posted on 04/08/2020 6:55:42 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: A_perfect_lady

Oh cool. You did a simple search.

Now go to their FOUNDING documents.

The Torah. The Koran. Tribal areas in Africa. Etc.

Basically, those not like you deserve what they get.


19 posted on 04/08/2020 6:58:38 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with islamic terrorists - they want to die for allah and we want to kill them.)
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To: NTHockey

LOL! Man, those old dames were a terror. I went to a Catholic elementary school in The Golden Age of Catholic education, early to mid-sixties. One heck of a lesson though, isn’t it?


20 posted on 04/08/2020 7:02:07 AM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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