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General Flynn vs. The Deep State
American Thinker.com ^ | April 30, 2020 | John Dietrich

Posted on 04/30/2020 4:18:59 AM PDT by Kaslin

Cardinal Richelieu reportedly said, "If you give me six sentences written by the most innocent of men I will find something in them with which to hang him.

Later, Josef Stalin's director of the NKVD Soviet secret police, Lavrentiy Beria, said, “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime.” Harvey Silverglate has written a book, Three Felonies a Day, which suggests that anyone can be convicted of a crime if government officials desire it.

General Michael Flynn has pled guilty to lying to the FBI. Pleading guilty is not unusual behavior when confronting the enormous power of the state. During the Soviet purge trials Grigory Zinoviev, Lev Kamenev and many others pled guilty to ridiculous charges. We believe that things like this should not happen in the United States.

Flynn's problems arose as a result of the Deep State's efforts to take down Donald Trump. Senator Chuck Schumer stated, “Let me tell you: You take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you. For a practical, supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he’s being really dumb to do this.” Trump's problem was that the intelligence community had decided to destroy him before he had an opportunity to "take them on."

The judge in the Flynn case, Emmmet Sullivan, has experience with corrupt Department of Justice officials. He presided over the conviction of Senator Ted Stevens of Alaska in 2008. Stevens was convicted of lying on financial disclosure documents. A few days later, Stevens lost re-election. Sullivan wrote, "The government's ill-gotten verdict in the case not only cost that public official his bid for re-election, the results of that election tipped the balance of power in the United States Senate."

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: demonrats; fbi; genflynn
What they did to General Flynn, a man that served his country honorable, is criminal and outrageous
1 posted on 04/30/2020 4:18:59 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I wonder if Flynn has a “go fund me” page?


2 posted on 04/30/2020 4:20:42 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Kaslin

3 posted on 04/30/2020 4:25:59 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kaslin

It would be an interesting world if we only prosecuted people for doing stuff like robbing a store, punching their neighbor, or defrauding a corporation. Those seem like crimes against society. Bad stuff, worthy of prosecution.

But the government seems focused on process crimes. You filled out your paperwork incorrectly. We interviewed you, and some of your answers were inaccurate. The government just loves to chase people for that sort of thing. Perhaps they shouldn’t.


4 posted on 04/30/2020 4:35:20 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Kaslin

The order to get Flynn probably came from one of Obama’s winged monkeys!


5 posted on 04/30/2020 4:38:53 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: Kaslin

The so-called deep state, which includes Congress and a good part of the courts, is rebelling against the will of the people. The Flynn skirmish is just one manifestation. How much of what the government does, how much of the control is truly by “consent.” Hell, most people are clueless how government works, and absent understanding, how is consent even possible?

End the bloat. Disband the corrupt law enforcement agencies.


6 posted on 04/30/2020 4:41:25 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: ClearCase_guy

The FBI needs to be done away with. It is too corrupt to save.


7 posted on 04/30/2020 4:41:48 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: central_va

Flynn is going to get every single penny back. His old attornies should be sued and forced to repay every penny and what they can’t repay the FBI and the individuals who perpetrated this fraud should pay. I believe Comey made something like $10 million on a phony book/deep state payoff deal.


8 posted on 04/30/2020 4:43:30 AM PDT by McGavin999 (Not one politician or journalist has died of Covid)
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To: Kaslin

This column is irrelevant. Stevens knew he was not guilty, stood up to the government, and went to trial. The government withheld evidence that Stevens was not guilty. Sullivan was convicted, and then Sullivan overturned the conviction upon learning of the government misconduct. A necessary part of Sullivan’s decision was the assessment of how the withheld evidence affected the conviction.

The situation is 100% different with a guilty plea. That is because, unlike someone who goes to trial, the person has admitted his guilt. In this case, Sullivan reviewed the evidence and decided that the guilty pleas were supported by facts. (BTW, the “fact” that a police officer does not think you are guilty is 100% irrelevant and inadmissible as evidence).

Powell incompetently forced herself into a position she knew she had to avoid - - having Flynn explain the circumstances of his plea. After committing that huge blunder, Powell submitted a “declaration” from Flynn which is a very explicit confession of perjury, as well as presenting facts humiliating to Flynn and totally contradicting his public image.

There is no “I was doing it for my son” defense to committing perjury. To the contrary, “I did it for my son” supplies a motive proving perjury. Powell was so dimwitted, she put Flynn into the position of admitting to far more serious crimes than those in the guilty plea.

Powell has never analyzed the LEGAL implications of the guilty plea, nor has the writer of this column, who truly has no clue what he is talking about. Citing the Steven’s case is a sign of cluelessness.

If people think discovery of chicanery and slimey tactics means guilty pleas are vacated, they are wrong. Sometimes it happens, rarely. But the law in this area discusses how to analyze the facts if one is arguing that government misconduct should result in vacating a guilty plea. Powell incompetently has not done that. Why?

OT but relevant: because the public is being asked to give money for the legal defense, shouldn’t there be a public accounting of receipts and expenditures. What possible reason would there be for not doing so?


9 posted on 04/30/2020 4:43:34 AM PDT by Gratia
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To: Kaslin

This column is irrelevant. Stevens knew he was not guilty, stood up to the government, and went to trial. The government withheld evidence that Stevens was not guilty. Sullivan was convicted, and then Sullivan overturned the conviction upon learning of the government misconduct. A necessary part of Sullivan’s decision was the assessment of how the withheld evidence affected the conviction.

The situation is 100% different with a guilty plea. That is because, unlike someone who goes to trial, the person has admitted his guilt. In this case, Sullivan reviewed the evidence and decided that the guilty pleas were supported by facts. (BTW, the “fact” that a police officer does not think you are guilty is 100% irrelevant and inadmissible as evidence).

Powell incompetently forced herself into a position she knew she had to avoid - - having Flynn explain the circumstances of his plea. After committing that huge blunder, Powell submitted a “declaration” from Flynn which is a very explicit confession of perjury, as well as presenting facts humiliating to Flynn and totally contradicting his public image.

There is no “I was doing it for my son” defense to committing perjury. To the contrary, “I did it for my son” supplies a motive proving perjury. Powell was so dimwitted, she put Flynn into the position of admitting to far more serious crimes than those in the guilty plea.

Powell has never analyzed the LEGAL implications of the guilty plea, nor has the writer of this column, who truly has no clue what he is talking about. Citing the Steven’s case is a sign of cluelessness.

If people think discovery of chicanery and slimey tactics means guilty pleas are vacated, they are wrong. Sometimes it happens, rarely. But the law in this area discusses how to analyze the facts if one is arguing that government misconduct should result in vacating a guilty plea. Powell incompetently has not done that. Why?

OT but relevant: because the public is being asked to give money for the legal defense, shouldn’t there be a public accounting of receipts and expenditures. What possible reason would there be for not doing so?


10 posted on 04/30/2020 4:43:34 AM PDT by Gratia
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To: Gratia
You can’t post sh!t like that here. Flynn is a hero ... or maybe he’s a retarded child who didn’t know what he was doing when he signed that guilty plea. But he’s a hero, and the greatest national security expert in the galaxy.

Of something like that.

:-P

11 posted on 04/30/2020 5:08:16 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.")
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To: Dr. Ursus
They were already out to get Flynn even before Trump. He reformed Defense intelligence so field commanders could have real time intelligence unfiltered and undelayed by all the self-important Vindmand Deepstaters back in DC. And we have seen what kinds of vengeful Karens [look it up] these Vindman's are when they aren't consulted - they like think it's an impeachable offense if the President isn't relying on their "expertise"

That Trump as relying on well-known anti-deepsters like the great General meant that he had to go. Had to! Our precious agencies in DC need to be able to do their work.

12 posted on 04/30/2020 5:22:21 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Alberta's Child

People should read his “declaration” sentence by sentence and really think about the plausibility and implications of what Flynn is saying. The “declaration” completely undermines Flynn’s public image.

But people are determined to adore Flynn. Heck, I adored Flynn for a long time.

There are two things Powell never wanted to happen: 1) Flynn having to explain why he pleaded guilty, and 2) testimony from Flynn’s first set of lawyers. Yet she blundered into making the first a reality and the second a possibility. Powell has nobody but herself to blame, what she did was monumentally stupid.

Yet every day I see people proclaiming how brilliant she is. They never explain how they came to that conclusion. It certainly could not have been from reading her legal papers, which are laughable in their “analysis.”


13 posted on 04/30/2020 5:26:44 AM PDT by Gratia
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To: AndyJackson
Hot off the meme press. Idea just came to me.


14 posted on 04/30/2020 6:07:27 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Strokejob vs Flynn is one of those epic Manichean struggles of good vs evil. Deepsters vs patriots.


15 posted on 04/30/2020 6:23:33 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Kaslin

Sullivan wrote, “The government’s ill-gotten verdict in the case not only cost that public official his bid for re-election, the results of that election tipped the balance of power in the United States Senate.”

And not a damned thing happened to the perps.

L


16 posted on 04/30/2020 6:25:06 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Travis McGee
You gotta wonder if unifying the intelligence community under DNI was such a good thing after all. Created one-stop shopping for deepster coups against the country.

Genuine diversity in the sense of competition of ideas and institutions is an American strength.

17 posted on 04/30/2020 6:26:41 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Gratia

The evidence? The law? You just wrote a whole lot of nothing. There is no law. We are now a nation of men, not laws. The Flynn case proves it beyond a doubt. The FIB coupists set out to and I directly quote “get” Flynn. This court case is absolutely not about Flynn. It’s about FIB coupists and their efforts to undermine/remove POTUS. Flynn was just a pawn in this treasonous game.


18 posted on 04/30/2020 6:34:34 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: jospehm20
The FBI needs to be done away with. It is too corrupt to save.

The criminals at the FBI need to be in prison for LIFE. Execution is too good for those parasites. As with the Xlintons NOTHING will happen to any of them. NOTHING. You can mark my word.

19 posted on 04/30/2020 6:36:38 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: lodi90

“You just wrote a whole lot of nothing.”

Then take one of the things I wrote and show me where I am wrong.


20 posted on 04/30/2020 6:42:01 AM PDT by Gratia
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