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Dr. Rand Paul: 'Scientific evidence shows mortality rate for coronavirus approximates the annual flu for people under 60'
Twitter ^ | 18th May 2020 | Rand Paul

Posted on 05/18/2020 4:03:43 PM PDT by RandFan

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To: SmokingJoe

Your analysis accumulates infections for the entire 7 weeks since shutdown, and compares them to the 3 week accumulation while cases were rising until mitigation flattened the rise.

Apples vs oranges.


41 posted on 05/18/2020 8:45:31 PM PDT by nagant
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To: gas_dr

Glad to see you are still engaged in medical malpractice.


42 posted on 05/18/2020 8:51:14 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: gas_dr

Hope you’re right about that. It seems that more types of damage are being discovered fairly often. The paper at the link focuses on bowel damage.

https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/pdf/10.1148/radiol.2020201908


43 posted on 05/18/2020 8:55:47 PM PDT by FreedomForce
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To: AndyJackson

Well that’s an interesting judgment coming from a non clinician. Glad to see you are still peddling pure bull sh*t


44 posted on 05/18/2020 9:06:13 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: FreedomForce

These are nonspecific findings and not attributable to Covid. You see the same thing in a broad cross section of shock patients


45 posted on 05/18/2020 9:08:03 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: AndyJackson
Those graphs you post show the average historical, then the actual weekly difference this year with the shaded areas showing the excess over average.

In other words, the weekly deaths this year graphed over the average historical, which by definition is going to be lower, as an average.

Further, the US graph shows one date point, taken in a January, to be fairly close to the level shown for this year.

There was in fact another year with similar high numbers, I wonder what year that was.

The graph is deceptive in highlighting this years' deaths superimposed over the average historical deaths, then highlighting the difference with darker shade, in an effort to show a great difference in death rates, when in fact it shows this year's death rates compared to the historical average, not the highest numbers of the numbers that make up the total raw data.

46 posted on 05/18/2020 9:21:39 PM PDT by going hot (happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: DannyTN

I won’t comply. What army will you get to force me?


47 posted on 05/18/2020 9:58:24 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Politics is the continuation of war by other means. --Clausewitz)
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To: DannyTN

I won’t comply. What army will you get to force me?


48 posted on 05/18/2020 9:58:25 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Politics is the continuation of war by other means. --Clausewitz)
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To: nagant
Nope.
Infections and deaths continued to increase for at least 4 weeks in brutal lockdown states like NY/NJ after lockdowns were instituted.
Meanwhile, Georgia ended their lockdowns over three weeks ago and hospitalizations, deaths and new infections have all dropped sharply, in direct contradiction with what Fauci and the media were predicting.
Florida has also experienced reduced numbers of deaths after lockdowns ended.
Again, Cuomo himself admitted just last week that 66% of all new infections are from people on lockdowns.
Lockdowns haven't worked anywhere on the planet. They have only brought economic ruin to hundreds of millions if not billions of people worldwide.
49 posted on 05/18/2020 10:28:27 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

Now you’re comparing warm southern states with early easings with still-chilly northern states with late easings. Its now a proven fact that warmth limits CV-19 and sunlight kills it quickly. The southern states who opened early knew this before they opened early. New York is our most populated city. Its two biggest problems have been that everyone takes public transit, and nobody gets any sunshine even during their short summers because the tall buildings block it.


50 posted on 05/19/2020 1:27:23 AM PDT by nagant
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To: going hot

bs


51 posted on 05/19/2020 4:33:52 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: nagant
everyone takes public transit, and nobody gets any sunshine even during their short summers because the tall buildings block it.

Sounds like they made poor life decisions. Oh well.

52 posted on 05/19/2020 4:44:16 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.)
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To: going hot

I see the problem with you flubros. None of you can read an effin graph. You also can’t read English which explains the graph.


53 posted on 05/19/2020 4:49:08 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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"Death rates have climbed far above historical averages in many countries that have faced covid 19 outbreaks".

That is the title. So far, it is clear, no?

Underneath that, in smaller letters, lighter color, it says,"number of deaths per week from all causes", with a squiggly line under the year date 2020, in red, somewhat thick, then "vs recent years,"which are again lighter charcoal colored squiggly lines, overlying each other like child's drawings.

You follow so far, right, that is what is shown and written.

What that depicts, the thicker red line, is the number of deaths this year, from all causes, in red, superimposed over recent years, the lighter lines. The dark black line is the average of all those other deaths, depicted as a thick dark line over the other squiggly lines in the background.

The shaded area, in red, depicts the total excess deaths under the red line curve, between the red line, the reent deaths, and the dark blackline, the average deaths of preceding years.

Note very carefully, look slow, so your lying eyes do not deceive you, and see that the shaded are is between the red line on top, and follows the darker black line on the bottom.

The darker line being, as they indicate, the average of all those other lighter charcoal lines shown in the background.

So, yes, the chart depicts the deaths this year, as compared to the average number of deaths over the years.

Now, you do know that an average is calculated by taking all numbers considered and dividing by the total amount of number, no?

So, by definition, an average level will not depict the actual higher or lower numbers.

Now, just for kicks, look at the US graph, over on the left margin.

See that light charcoal squiggly line with a high point in the 67-68 k range?

That is the number of deaths for that year, not this year, and it looks fairly close to this year.

You can also see similar for Austria, Denmark,Germany,Norway, and Portugal, some showing much higher deaths in given years than this year.

So, yes, the graph shows actual numbers this year, superimposed over AVERAGE deaths at same time in other years. Somewhat disingenuous.

Your graph, and your fear mongering, is what is the Bullshit.

Disingenuous vs ignorance, tough choice.

54 posted on 05/19/2020 7:40:41 AM PDT by going hot (happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: going hot
See that light charcoal squiggly line with a high point in the 67-68 k range? That is the number of deaths for that year, not this year, and it looks fairly close to this year.

I told you you cannot read a graph and you just proved it!!!

55 posted on 05/19/2020 8:39:12 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: going hot
You can look at Israel as an example of a country that has no stastically significant increase, EACH WEEK, this year compared to individual weekly rates on previous years and the AVERAGE of those WEEKLY rates.

It's not actually hard.

56 posted on 05/19/2020 8:43:41 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: WildHighlander57

There are lots of viruses that have what could be called ‘spike’ proteins. The HA protein of influenza (e.g. the H1 in H1N1), for example, is a type of ‘spike’ protein. It’s a general term referring to proteins that ‘stick out’ from the viral capsid and that are often involved in binding of the virus to specific receptors. For enveloped viruses, like Coronaviridae, HIV, and influenza, these are proteins that are embedded in, but jut outside of the viral envelope, and define the repertoire of receptors (and thus the species and cells) that specific viruses bind to. In a laboratory, it’s really pretty simple to alter them.


57 posted on 05/19/2020 3:13:34 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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