Posted on 05/28/2020 4:48:19 PM PDT by bort
Thanks for the information. This case is weak. Still, it does NOT look appetizing to the public.
LOL. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
Sorry I’m a little busy watching my city go to hell from thugs.
I always thought that fairness was the difference between getting a warning or getting a speeding ticket - you know officer's discretion, as in the #1 tool in law enforcement is public support. I never knew it applied to life and death.
Since the difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to be believable.... I give you a hypothetical:
Your son is home from college. Had a few beers in the afternoon and realized he needed some more... he also realized he is a little short of cash and says to himself, "I know someone who knows someone who wants that old bike of mine I never use anymore."
So, some stranger shows up and gives him a twenty for it. He goes to the convenience store (thinking he's okay to drive as most young folks do) and suddenly the clerk says it's a forgery... the clerk calls the cops.
Your son is really pissed and storms out of the store and gets mostly home when the cops pull him over. Neighbors start coming out from their backyards and a small crowd gathers.
Your son is irritated and the cops place him on the ground and one officer kneels on his neck as the neighbors yell for the cop to stop..even though your son is totally subdued on the ground the cop continues to put his full weight on your son's neck
Well, you get the picture. Nobody knew your son had a heart condition. He dies at the scene. He didn't die from lack of oxygen. The weight of the cop on his neck cut his blood flow and his heart gave out. Life ain't fair and neither are the police sometimes.
Not the cops fault... right. Good police procedure: Drunk... passing bad money... unknown heart condition.
I say the police should be held to the same damn stands as any other person. 'in fear of' for deadly force should apply as though any citizen used it for justification. Putting your knee on someone's neck after that person is subdued that relates to their death should have the same results as if anyone did it.
the officer kept his full weight on the man, using his knee, for all most 3 minutes after the man was unresponsive. In other words.... after they couldn’t find a pulse.
“I predict that if no charges are brought, or charges are brought and a jury finds not guilty, that the police will end up settling a wrongful dismissal case.”
Government-driven boilerplate:
Get the police out of the public light, try the case, lose. Police get their jobs back.
Yes I know all that. I follow everything on Twitter that is light years ahead of FR in getting out information.
The people on this thread that think the cop didn’t kill that man need to rearrange their brains.
This is what the media feeding frenzy does to people’s judgment, and it’s hardly the first time. Trayvon Martin and Rodney King are just the most immediately recalled incidents.
Well it IS obviously a COVID19 related death, if it wasnt for the worldwide socialist agenda pandemic, the poor guy woulda been working, instead of out trying to pass bad checks [/s]
BUt; but BUT ...he looks like a racist , and he is white , so that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt it was racially motivated
This is an issue of deprivation of civil rights under color of law.
Supreme Court precedent has ruled, that the police have NO affirmative duty to protect the public.
So if you call 9-11 because an axe murderer is bashing your door in, and the cops decide they’d rather stop on the way at Dunkin Donuts, because they’re lard asses, and you die, your next of kin CANNOT sue.
But all of that changes, once you are in police custody.
If you are in police custody (being arrested and in cuffs qualifies) they are responsible for your well being.
In this case, the policeman is on video, holding his knee on the neck of a guy for nine full minutes nonstop. In public. On a video with no blank spots, no inconvenient splices, or anything, from just six feet away.
The guy passes out. Bystanders are begging the cop to get off and check the guy’s pulse. He doesn’t.
One of the other policemen, takes the man’s pulse, and finds NO pulse.
Mr. Kneecap, instead of performing CPR, even after a fellow officer told him the guy has no pulse, keeps his knee on the guy’s neck for over 2 1/2 minutes. Not rumor. ON VIDEO IN REAL TIME.
This openly, verbatim, explicitly satisfies both 3rd degree murder (which doesn’t require intent by state law, but “depraved indifference”) and manslaughter.
Mr. Kneecap is now in jail on $500,000 bond.
Who gives a rat’s rear end about race?
If they want to make it about race, good luck arguing them out of it, since “deprivation of rights under color of law” was used to go after the Klan.
But the Feds haven’t brought that charge ...yet.
The officers only defense would be battle fatigue, under the duress of constant combat with career criminals the average police officer could become just a little complacent at compassion for that version of human life.
The battlefield becomes the officers entire life, i have no true concept of what that would do to me, I think I would snap at some point.. or fall in to a full on survival mode where I could care less about "them"
Add to that a boiling political climate that favors "them" agianst your only protection within department management. Somewhere between a rock and a hard place.
it is entirely probable that it was not race related at all
Note the “evincing a depraved mind” element. That’s difficult to prove. I doubt they’ll get a conviction on that charge. Manslaughter’s a possibility, depending on what the body cams show, however the mayor’s refusal to look at and the ongoing refusal to release the footage doesn’t inspire confidence.
In Rodney and in the recent Slager case, it was their ace in the hole charge. The Feds can bring it without a double jeopardy issue arising.
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