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To: tinyowl

I don’t disagree with the points she raises, but I do think it’s a minor part of the larger issue. Whatever Floyd George did in his life, up to and including the moment of his arrest, does not justify an extrajudicial killing by a street cop who has a duty to bring the suspect into the justice system. The officer has no authority to render street justice, or take matters personally, the other police on the scene had a duty to stop officer Chauvin and they did nothing. That is wrong.

The looters and anarchists who see this event as an opportunity deserve and are riding on the backs of otherwise peaceful protests are begging to be squashed, and they should be, but that first bit about an extrajudicial killing isn’t addressed, it won’t do anything for the communities who are marching for the end of extrajudicial killings and the mistreatment of some communities by police.

It’s not actually a complicated problem: some cops are awful and are hiding in the fabric of lawful and good police. Police are themselves free citizens and want to return to their families at the end of each shift. The criminals and anarchists want to see not the police and the community burned to the ground.


5 posted on 06/03/2020 10:49:39 PM PDT by jz638
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To: jz638
"Whatever Floyd George did in his life, up to and including the moment of his arrest, does not justify an extrajudicial killing by a street cop who has a duty to bring the suspect into the justice system. "

Sure but she acknowledges that about 476 times and frankly even THAT is not the bigger point of this whole thing.

Ultimately, he's just a guy a bad cop appears to have killed or murdered or call it what you will. Blacks are not killed in greater numbers than whites and whites are killed by cops in greater proportion. There is not systemic police brutality against blacks.

So I'm not sure the point you're trying to make.

I think her broader point isn't just that Floyd isn't a guy to follow around like a holy martyr, but that the black community has its head up its butt in terms of making its situation better because it always identifies as a victim to whites -- and then chooses people with very bad character to make that point.

So sure - that Floyd was no martyr isn't the biggest point, but nor is the biggest point that whatever happened, which appears from the video released so far to be a bad kill, shouldn't have happened.

The BIGGEST point is 'what is happening as a result of what happened'. And THAT is her point. It's a combination of the black community being easily manipulated into victim mode over a false martyr, and then, too, is the organized/planned violence - which is frankly organizations controlled mostly by whites ... who are manipulating blacks.

So I guess I disagree with you -> I think she is speaking to the heart of the matter. What follows from George not being a hero, and her coming right out and saying it and why, is that the black community has once again been manipulated and lied to so as to cause them to rise up, in the name of the reverse of a hero, against something which is not the thing that is holding them back.

8 posted on 06/03/2020 11:04:30 PM PDT by tinyowl (A is A)
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To: jz638
Whatever Floyd George did in his life, up to and including the moment of his arrest, does not justify an extrajudicial killing by a street cop

Did you even watch it? did you listen to what she said? Doesn't seem like you did. She made that same point at least 5 times in that video. Why are you still making out that she was saying anything different? She's not saying he deserved it for being a career criminal at all. She's saying he should not be made into the innocent martyr they're trying to make him in to.

17 posted on 06/04/2020 12:14:27 AM PDT by Bullish (CNN is what happens when 8th graders run a cable network.)
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To: jz638

Excuse me but where IN THE HELL are the protests for the 77 year old BLACK man that was killed by these thugs who was an exemplary citizen his WHOLE LIFE!! YES this cop was wrong but you are buying into this BS!! Candice is RIGHT???


18 posted on 06/04/2020 12:23:48 AM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: jz638

To Floyd by is actions is responsible for his own death.

Why you want ton blame the police when it all started with MR. Floyd.

If Mr. Floyd a long time violent felon had not taken drugs, had not committed another crime had not resisted arrest none of it would have happen.

Mr. Floyd should be held responsible for his own death.


24 posted on 06/04/2020 3:26:26 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: jz638

“...but that first bit about an extrajudicial killing isn’t addressed...”

On the contrary, the “extrajudicial killing” has already been addressed; the killer has been charged with murder.

And, as she pointed out, society will never scrub out the psychos who do their evil while wearing some kind of uniform. Each one has to be dealt with individually.

Now, why is that particular “extrajudicial” activity more serious than what occurred with the FBI thugs who tried to topple an entire elected government? Do you get as exercised over that as this event? And no matter what laws are implemented, it will happen again because some people are evil and will work around any barrier that is put up.


28 posted on 06/04/2020 4:19:20 AM PDT by odawg
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To: jz638

Many so-called peaceful protests are anything but. Is overtaking a major interstate, stopping all traffic including emergency vehicles, peaceful? Is defying curfew peaceful? Refusing to leave an area peaceful? Is taunting cops in their faces with disgusting name-calling peaceful? Not in my book.


32 posted on 06/04/2020 4:32:53 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: jz638

Of course the fact that he resisted arrest and had to be restrained and was high on synthetic Heroin which is known to cause respiratory arrest has little bearing right?

Let’s look for bad cops everytime a doped out thug who is committing a crime gets hurt resisting arrest.
Caustic those kinds of people are heroes in the pop culture of the thugocracy.

That was a police sanctioned restraint hold of a 6 foot 6 weight lifter hyped up on drugs who was resisting arrest.

And Making a drug addict porn star into a hero because you want your freedom to emulate his lifestyle is unwise.

(Not you personally)

I for one doubt this is about Justice and violence at all when I see Violence Justified in responce.


36 posted on 06/04/2020 5:09:11 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: jz638
The "larger issue?"

This thug alternated living as a predator and a parasite. For some, this arrest would be an outrageous violation of civil rights. For him, it's a quality of work life issue.

I agree with Candace.

47 posted on 06/04/2020 12:13:07 PM PDT by gogeo (It isn't just time to open America up again: It's time to be America again.)
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