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To: marktwain

Hold up.

If the District court said he didn’t have a case, and then the 3-Judge 9th said he didn’t have a case, and finally the entire 9th says he doesn’t have a case, how is this a help?


3 posted on 09/19/2020 9:12:02 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The only thing worse than COVID-19 is Biden-20!)
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To: Alas Babylon!
The outcomes do not help.

The dissent helps. The case is such an egregious abuse of power on the part of the Ninth Circuit, it practically begs to be overturned by SCOTUS.

With Ruth Bader Ginsburg no longer on the Supreme Court, and a new Trump appointment in the works... this could be big.

Actually, there are several cases waiting in the wings from the Ninth Circuit. This is one.

4 posted on 09/19/2020 9:17:56 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

It’s the remarks by the Dissenting judges that reflects positive changes.

The vote’s number most likely very close. This is especially due to the conservative judges Pres Trump appointed.

The article is reminding folks of the importance of having Pres Trump kept in office; to give more conservative judges appointed.

If there’d been a few more conservative pro 2nd Amendment judges on the 9th Circuit they probably would have heard the case En Banc.


5 posted on 09/19/2020 9:18:57 AM PDT by Notthereyet (NotThereYet.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Hold up.

If the District court said he didn’t have a case, and then the 3-Judge 9th said he didn’t have a case, and finally the entire 9th says he doesn’t have a case, how is this a help?


It shows progress, from an entirely and vehemently anti-2A 9th circuit to one with a strong pro-2A minority in the space of a single 4 year presidential term.

That progress, is, of course, a good thing. And reelection of DJT has the potential to flip the 9th back to sanity on the issue.

But your objection, unfortunately, is still ultimately true: in the end, this case was a *loss* for Mr. Mai, and for all of us. It's just that it was a closer loss than the unanimous rubber-stamp deprival of rights that would've happened not so long ago.

Progress? Absolutely. Victory? Not yet.

We shall see. The potential is ultimately there this November. I shall leave with Mr. Barack Hussein Obama's finest (if a touch cynical) contribution to the discourse of American politics:

Elections have consequences...
6 posted on 09/19/2020 9:24:28 AM PDT by verum ago (Some people must truly be in love, for only love can be so blind. Too cynical..?)
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To: Alas Babylon!
finally the entire 9th says he doesn’t have a case

What are you taking about? Only 3 judges on the 9th said said he didn't have a case. None of the dissenting judges on the 9th expressed that opinion.

16 posted on 09/19/2020 12:59:19 PM PDT by Ahithophel (Communication is an art form susceptible to sudden technical failure)
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