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To: B Knotts
Regardless, it was the job of the state government to defend the will of the people in the courts, and they failed to do so.

The will of the people was enunciated when the people elected Grayout Doofus and Bill Lockjaw to Governor and AG, and explicitly threw out the Republicans who'd backed 187 to the hilt in the 1994 campaign.

Proposition 187 poked the Hispanic community in this state with a sharp stick (mostly because the advertising campaign managed to look like it was written by Tom Metzger). They went out, registered to vote, and then they poked us back. Most Hispanic voters in 1994 supported it; but the new ones that showed up in 1996, 1998, and 2000 hadn't voted in 1994.

There's a lesson in there: don't go out of your way to pick a fight you don't need to engage in.

It's going to be decades before a GOP candidate gets into the statehouse again. I'm pushing for Simon--but it'd take a miracle to get him elected right now.

17 posted on 02/11/2002 1:49:49 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
I disagree. I don't remember any of the ads for 187, but the reason I voted for it was very simple: it applied to illegal aliens. Not Hispanics. Illegal aliens.

For crying out loud, if we can't even deny state services to people that aren't legally in the country, why should we even bother to have immigration laws, or really, any laws?

18 posted on 02/11/2002 2:02:20 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: Poohbah
Proposition 187 poked the Hispanic community in this state with a sharp stick (mostly because the advertising campaign managed to look like it was written by Tom Metzger). They went out, registered to vote, and then they poked us back. Most Hispanic voters in 1994 supported it; but the new ones that showed up in 1996, 1998, and 2000 hadn't voted in 1994.

How many of those Hispanic voters are citizens of the U.S.?

Oh how terrible it is that the citizens of CA voted to not provide subsided education to the citizens of Mexico that are here ILLEGALLY. I wonder what Mexico's policy is on providing free education to illegal foreigners ...or any other country in this world for that matter? Do you have any sympathies at all for the taxpayers that are forced to pay the education bills for kids of parents that are breaking the laws of this country for just being here? If the Federal Government were fulfilling its constitutional responsibility of protecting our people from this INVASION and ENFORCING our immigration laws this would not be crisis.

28 posted on 02/11/2002 7:24:29 PM PST by WRhine
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To: Poohbah
Neither Simon nor Simon & Garfunkle will stand for 187. IT is a big political race card.

It would take a person who says they are staying out of the way of the will of the people. It would be the only excuse.

Whereas Davis stood IN-THE-WAY of the vote of the people.

37 posted on 02/11/2002 10:31:47 PM PST by A CA Guy
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