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Francis Cardinal George, Archbishop of Chicago, claims RCF has no evidence
Roman Catholic Faithful ^
| Spring/Summer 2001
| Stephen Brady
Posted on 04/25/2002 4:43:48 PM PDT by history_matters
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I post this just to remind us all who Cardinal George is and what he has done and failed to do as Archbishop of Chicago.
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To: history_matters
Cdl George says:
If there is something I need to know about sexual abuse of a child by one of the priests of the Archdiocese, I ask you to have the victim contact me. Sorry - the victims need to contact the local district attorney. The chancery is the LAST place victims or their families should contact.
To: history_matters
I disagree totally with Brady's tactic. Cardinal George is a good man. He inherited tremendous problems created by Bernadin. The radical 'so-called' Catholics hate his guts and have worked intensely to ignore everything he says. Now, he has a traditional Catholic breathing down his neck. Brady needs to clean it up. In Texas, we call it being downright "ugly".
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posted on
04/25/2002 5:22:46 PM PDT
by
Slyfox
To: history_matters
Cardinal George obviously needs to stop looking the other way, but he does have a point about Mr. Brady sounding like Call to Action and being more careful about where he makes his accusations. If Mr. Brady is irresponsible he may do more harm then good. On the issue of general absolution, I don't think the cardinal has any excuse and he should be ashamed to even say what he did.
To: All
In response to a couple of freepmails, I am not Stephen Brady nor am I a member of the Roman Catholic Faithful, Inc. I posted this correspondence because I thought it was germaine to the ongoing discussion.
To: history_matters
While I can't disclose here right now, but Cardinal George is taking care of the problem.
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posted on
04/25/2002 5:31:58 PM PDT
by
MagnusMat
To: nickcarraway
Good point. This scandal has degenerated into a "Call to Action" agenda versus the "homosexual problem." Both miss the point. The problem is that the heirarchy in some dioceses worsened the problem with a policy of moving around priests they knew were predatory, and they should be held accountable for that. Insulting letters may make people feel good but ultimately accomplish nothing except making the writer look like a nut. And the Cardinal should have responded with two sentences thanking him for his input instead of blasting back.
To: Slyfox
Cardinal George is a good man.
Here in Texas, I call you a downright liar. He could stop general absolution in one day. What's stopping him?
To: All
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posted on
04/25/2002 6:15:54 PM PDT
by
Bob J
To: RecallJeffords
Before the airing of the current crisis, those fighting the lavendar mafia had their anger stoked to fury by the official denials and episcopal reprimands of the laity who dared to speak the truth. In some cases I think the battle against this institutionalized evil has almost led some good souls to the brink of madness or at least poor judgment -- while others simply left the Church and became Orthodox Christians or just gave up.
To: history_matters
One of the main reasons for the current scandals is that the heirarchy ignored the obvious warning signs for way too long, including an increasingly militant homosexual presence in the clergy, which was compounded by covering up sexual misconduct. I am sympathetic to the victims of this awful policy and the good, holy priests who have unfairly been tainted in an environment where (no doubt) some people see an opportunity to turn a tragedy into an agenda and a quick buck.
To: history_matters
After reading this exchange I can finally understand why some former Catholics choose schism to the SSPX rather than staying and having to deal with heretics like this Cardinal. I dont' agree with their decision, I think their souls are in danger; but I completely understand, because the emotions stoked up in me arouse a deep infatuation with that path.
To: history_matters
Thanks. Sadly.
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posted on
04/25/2002 7:15:26 PM PDT
by
sobieski
To: Slyfox
Brady's right. The Cardinal had a solid issue in general absolution. It would take one statement. It's not done.
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posted on
04/25/2002 7:16:22 PM PDT
by
sobieski
To: RecallJeffords
I'd go further: apparently the leadership is in league with the problem.
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posted on
04/25/2002 7:17:32 PM PDT
by
sobieski
To: history_matters
However, when we attempted to provide you with photos of clergy misconduct last year in connection with the St. Sebastian Website, you faxed me a letter in which you said that you would not look at these homosexual photos because they could be a near occasion of sin for you.
What are we, the faithful, to make of such a statement from a Prince of the Church?
"Scandals will inevitably arise, but woe to him through whom they come. He would be better off thrown into the sea with a millstone around his neck than giving scandal to one of these little ones." Luke 17:2
To: nickcarraway
In the case of general absolution, that amounts to a technical point, unless one goes entirely to Lutherand practice and private confession becomes the anomaly. Private confession is a practive a thousand years old,and, I think, is established , but it was not always the method of the Church.
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posted on
04/25/2002 7:47:51 PM PDT
by
RobbyS
To: Proud2BAmerican, history matters
Yes, one can be infatuated with a departure. Yes, one could contemplate having a cool head. This is a time for warriors. Warriors are not constrained by the niceties of social conventions. Steven Brady: Rock On! If I knew the prayer to St. Michael, the Archangel, I would quote it now. In my heart, I contemplate its intent! (God Bless you two freepes, in the frustations we all share!). V's wife.
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posted on
04/25/2002 7:49:03 PM PDT
by
ventana
To: ventana
I would not use the language that Brady uses. but the bishops needs to know that Catholics will not simply defer to their judgements, since these have been so flawed.
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posted on
04/25/2002 7:56:29 PM PDT
by
RobbyS
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