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To: MarkWar
"Lesbian Nuns: Breaking Silence," Rosemary Curb (Editor) Nancy Manahan (Editor) -- is a pretty good indication that there is a whole population of young girls who have also been abused but either haven't come forward or simply aren't getting the press.

How extensive is abuse of teenage girls and children by lesbians? Anybody know?

Personally, I think you're making stuff up. There is no evidence that there is any kind of problem with "lesbian nuns" and girls in their charge. Just how extensive is female rape?

However I have known a lot of girls who told me that nuns used to take them aside and talk about how wearing "indecent" underwear would "lead boys on" and the nuns seemed keen to talk about what kind of underwear the girls owned and wore...)

You mean like the Vice-Principal in a public school out in California who just last week was checking for thong underwear?

There are prudish busybodies in all professions, the Catholic sisterhood has had and will continue to have its share. But to act as if there's some looming abuse problem among nuns is just ludicrous.

17 posted on 05/04/2002 8:57:46 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
>Personally, I think you're making stuff up.

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Mark W.

23 posted on 05/04/2002 10:27:16 AM PDT by MarkWar
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To: sinkspur
No, it's not ridiculous to think that there might be abuse problems among nuns. I had a boss in California about 15 years ago who had been brought up in an orphanage in NJ run by an order of nuns that I won't identify. She, having had a great life among the nuns (her parents were alive but had basically abandoned her), went into the order when she was 18 (probably around 1964-5). Things were fine until about 1970, when suddenly a young nun appeared at her door and told her that she "really liked" her.

My friend slammed the door in her face and, until she left the order a couple of years later, heard the ladies scampering up and down the hall and enjoying themselves.

This woman eventually decided that she was a lesbian, but that was (I think) simply a reaction, because she had grown up among women, and had then suddenly seen all of these innocent friendships suddenly turn sexual.

Remember that before Vatican II, men and women religious were severely chastised for having "particular friendships." This phrase may not mean anything to you, but what it meant in the real world was the building of individual and group (cliquish) friendships that excluded the rest of the community.

Having lived in lay communities, I can tell you that cliques are enormously dangerous. And two-person cliques that suddenly become sexual are the most dangerous of all.

Generally, it seems to me that women do not form the sort of Lavender Mafia that men do; women seem to leave their orders if they plan to pursue a non-Christian "life-style." A point in favor of women, who may be more honest than men, such as the great guys and practicing clergy who gave us the "Sebastian's Angels"website...

Now that we have abandoned the saints (when was the last time you saw the feast of a saint in your "missalette"?) and almost 2,000 years of experience, I guess it's not to wonder that everyone, male and female, has gone way off the tracks and crashed and burned in the underbrush.

49 posted on 05/04/2002 7:17:34 PM PDT by livius
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