Northern Illinois United Methodist Conference Urges: Homosexuality/bisexuality "gift of God"

Methodist Federation for Social Action | June 6, 2003 | Rev. Bob Campbell, Legislative Coordinator> Coordinator

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Good luck. Because the "crud" seems to be fast over-taking the UMC.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

In the future, most people won't even remember the "old ways."

The Memory Hole grows exponentially.

[curmudgeonII]

In all probablity these same people are the same ones moaning about the decline in memberhip and attendance in the traditonal protestant churches.

[onedoug]

I can't think of any happy polygamists in the Hebrew Bible. They were all miserable in their marriages.

It was finally done away with within Judaism circa 1000 CE.

Also in the Tanak, slavery was never declared good.

[goldstategop]

Ahhh yes... these are the churches and synagogues growing by leaps and bounds. Back in 1967 an outside observer would have predicted their extinction. Instead, its the trendy liberal religious movements that appear headed for that destination. The Lord moves in strange ways...

[aruanan]

I can't think of any happy polygamists in the Hebrew Bible. They were all miserable in their marriages.

I like the last sentence. Ha ha ha. I haven't seen anyone who hasn't been miserable at some point in his marriage. Of course, the chances for misery are greatly increased with, and because of, each wife added.

[RnMomof7]

Well as a NEW Bible Presbyterian I would expect the same report.

[goldstategop]

A man can't be truly faithful to several women. I think of our biblical ancestor Jacob who had several wives but of whom it is written, he truly loved Rachel.

As for homosexuality, that was never declared good by the Taanach either unless we're prepared to rewrite the moral teachings of antiquity entirely.

[onedoug]

Married 28 years, I've never been "miserable" in any way, shape or form.

[Hinoki Cypress]

Exactly why I left organized religion many years ago. As a former methodist, I am much more spiritual now, than I was within the confines of that perverted UMC dogma.

[onedoug]

Male homosexuality was declared, "an abomination".

[goldstategop]

Exactly. For the life of me I can't understand how something that was accepted without question for the last several millenia has been rejected so quickly in the past 30 years or so.

[Jhoffa_]

Blasphemy.

And the Republican party is closing with the Democrats on this issue daily.

[Jim Noble]

Does the fact that I am "oriented" towards adultery mean that the Church should bless my (hypothetical) affairs?

Should we now have a rite for picking up the motel keys?

[ladylib]

We're doomed.

[Sci Fi Guy]

What has happened?

It is/was Modernism a.k.a. (theological)liberalism. Short Answer at the end of the 19th century certain seminaries began to teach that the Bible contained errors. The compromise became a slipperly slope to where 3 or 4 generations later we have mainline denominations dominated controlled by anti-Christian ministers.

[7 x 77]

We're doomed.

This is awful, but there's good reason to hope that the wrongness of homosexuality will eventually be evident to most everyone. Most all these gay marriages will fail, and the evidence will be overwhelming even to the deluded.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

Polygamy is its own punishment:-))

[hope]

Psalm 1:1
Blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the ungodly, Nor stands in the path of sinners, Nor sits in the seat of the scoffer...

Some of these religious institutions have been taken over my non-believers. People who belong to these Godless denominations should be leaving in droves.

[hope]

They may not be the case...The Word tells us that there will come a time that a decieving spirit will overtake them and they will not endure sound doctrine.