Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

'First Americans Were Australian'
BBC ^ | 6-15-2003

Posted on 06/15/2003 9:18:19 PM PDT by blam

'First Americans were Australian'

This is the face of the first known American, Lucia

The first Americans were descended from Australian aborigines, according to evidence in a new BBC documentary.

The skulls suggest faces like those of Australian aborigines

The programme, Ancient Voices, shows that the dimensions of prehistoric skulls found in Brazil match those of the aboriginal peoples of Australia and Melanesia. Other evidence suggests that these first Americans were later massacred by invaders from Asia.

Until now, native Americans were believed to have descended from Asian ancestors who arrived over a land bridge between Siberia and Alaska and then migrated across the whole of north and south America. The land bridge was formed 11,000 years ago during the ice age, when sea level dropped.

How rock art suggests a violent end for the "Australian" Americans However, the new evidence shows that these people did not arrive in an empty wilderness. Stone tools and charcoal from the site in Brazil show evidence of human habitation as long ago as 50,000 years.

The site is at Serra Da Capivara in remote northeast Brazil. This area is now inhabited by the descendants of European settlers and African slaves who arrived just 500 years ago.

But cave paintings found here provided the first clue to the existence of a much older people.

The costumes and rituals shown in rock art survived in Terra del Fuego

Images of giant armadillos, which died out before the last ice age, show the artists who drew them lived before even the natives who greeted the Europeans.

These Asian people have facial features described as mongoloid. However, skulls dug from a depth equivalent to 9,000 to 12,000 years ago are very different.

Walter Neves, an archaeologist from the University of Sao Paolo, has taken extensive skull measurements from dozens of skulls, including the oldest, a young woman who has been named Lucia.

"The measurements show that Lucia was anything but mongoloid," he says.

Walter Neves has measured hundreds of skulls

The next step was to reconstruct a face from Lucia's skull. First, a CAT scan of the skull was done, to allow an accurate working model to be made.

Then a forensic artist, Richard Neave from the University of Manchester, UK, created a face for Lucia. The result was surprising: "It has all the features of a negroid face," says Dr Neave.

Lucia's skull is 12,000 years old

The skull dimensions and facial features match most closely the native people of Australia and Melanesia. These people date back to about 60,000 years, and were themselves descended from the first humans, who left Africa about 100,000 years ago.

But how could the early Australians have travelled more than 13,500 kilometres (8,450 miles) at that time? The answer comes from more cave paintings, this time from the Kimberley, a region at the northern tip of Western Australia.

Here, Grahame Walsh, an expert on Australian rock art, found the oldest painting of a boat anywhere in the world. The style of the art means it is at least 17,000 years old, but it could be up to 50,000 years old.

And the crucial detail is the high prow of the boat. This would have been unnecessary for boats used in calm, inland waters. The design suggests it was used on the open ocean.

Fantastic voyage

Archaeologists speculate that such an incredible sea voyage, from Australia to Brazil, would not have been undertaken knowingly but by accident.

Just three years ago, five African fishermen were caught in a storm and a few weeks later were washed up on the shores of South America. Two of the fishermen died, but three made it alive.

Walter Neves says the negroid people disappear 7,000 years ago But if the first Americans had drifted from Australia, where are their descendants now? Again, the skulls suggest an answer.

The shape of the skulls changes between 9,000 and 7,000 years ago from being exclusively negroid to exclusively mongoloid. Combined with rock art evidence of increasing violence at this time, it appears that the mongoloid people from the north invaded and wiped out the original Americans.

Fuegean Cristina Calderon may be one of the few surviving descendants of the first Americans

The only evidence of any survivors comes from Terra del Fuego, the islands at the remotest southern tip of South America.

The pre-European Fuegeans, who lived stone age-style lives until this century, show hybrid skull features which could have resulted from intermarrying between mongoloid and negroid peoples. Their rituals and traditions also bear some resemblance to the ancient rock art in Brazil.

The identity of the first Americans is an emotive and controversial question. But the evidence from Brazil, and a handful of people who still live at the very tip of South America, suggests that the Americas have been home to a greater diversity of humans than previously thought - and for much longer.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aborigines; amazon; amazonia; americans; americas; annaroosevelt; archaeology; australia; australian; catastrophism; clovis; first; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; history; landdownunder; meadowcroft; menatwork; multiregionalism; neandertal; origins; preclovis; precolumbian; precolumbianamazon; replacement; slashandburn; terrapreta; vegemite
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 141-150 next last
* When Humboldt was touring this southern area, he recorded that there were two types of people. One was tall and slim and wore a lot of clothes, the other was short and fat and wore few clothes

* There is a recently discovered skeleton on one of the California Islands that will predate Luzia in age, I think she has been named, 'Arlington Springs Woman.'

1 posted on 06/15/2003 9:18:19 PM PDT by blam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: blam
Arlington Springs Woman, 13,000 Year Old Skeleton, California Island
2 posted on 06/15/2003 9:21:11 PM PDT by blam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam
This crap never ends...There from West Africa/East Asia/Northern Russia/Greenland/Atlantis and now Australia...does it ever end????
3 posted on 06/15/2003 9:21:20 PM PDT by Porterville (I support US total global, world domination; how's that for sensitive??)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam
This crap never ends...There from West Africa/East Asia/Northern Russia/Greenland/Atlantis and now Australia...does it ever end????
4 posted on 06/15/2003 9:21:23 PM PDT by Porterville (I support US total global, world domination; how's that for sensitive??)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Porterville
If you don't like, stay the hell off my threads then!!
5 posted on 06/15/2003 9:22:22 PM PDT by blam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: blam
This stuff makes me dizzy. When are the scientists ever going to get on the same page for more than a month or two?
6 posted on 06/15/2003 9:23:27 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam
Relax it no reflection on you what I feel about an article. It is just an article after all.
7 posted on 06/15/2003 9:23:30 PM PDT by Porterville (I support US total global, world domination; how's that for sensitive??)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Porterville
Excuse me then. I'm just getting tired of my threads being hijacked by the Creationists, I thought that was where you were headed.
8 posted on 06/15/2003 9:25:14 PM PDT by blam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: blam
...don't tell me--they found cavewriting that translated to:

"NOOOOOOOO POOFTERS!!!"
9 posted on 06/15/2003 9:25:33 PM PDT by RichInOC ("Australia, Australia, we love you, amen!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam
The more we find, the less we know. But, it is fun too see cenvention turned upside down.
10 posted on 06/15/2003 9:25:59 PM PDT by umgud (gov't has more money than it needs, but never as much as it wants)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: umgud
convention, not cenvention
11 posted on 06/15/2003 9:26:57 PM PDT by umgud (gov't has more money than it needs, but never as much as it wants)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Porterville
hopefully this will mean everyone will be able to open a tax free casino.
12 posted on 06/15/2003 9:32:36 PM PDT by longtermmemmory
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: blam
It just that the Aboriginees sailing to Brazil 12,000 years ago and wind up as a not so technological society, is a stretch. If the Olmecs, Aztecs, Incas, Mayans, Anasazi, etc. etc. are decendents of Aboriginal Australians, would it not make sense that Aboriginals be a little more sophisticated than their history suggest???

And isn't it a little convenient to just say they were killed off by the Asian tribes???

University of Sao Paolo, Brazil, first Americans, where??? Brazil or adjacent to Argentina...Prime location of civilization of the American cultures. It is called bragging rights. For countries like Brazil, if you can't be first bend the rules to fit your Carnival.

13 posted on 06/15/2003 9:36:32 PM PDT by Porterville (I support US total global, world domination; how's that for sensitive??)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Porterville
does it ever end????

Why should it? I think the mobility of the ancient man has been severely underestimated by the modern man.

It's not a competition, is just an interest in unraveling the truth of the past and that takes time.

I may be way off base here, but isn't archeology a relatively "new" science. Prior to the last one hundred years it seems like it's just been grave robbing.

14 posted on 06/15/2003 9:47:56 PM PDT by lizma
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Porterville
It's just another piece of the complicated puzzle of the settling of the Americas. Which I believe was done by people from all continents over many thousands of years ocassionally interrupted by world affecting catastrophic events.
15 posted on 06/15/2003 9:51:09 PM PDT by blam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: lizma
It isn't a little suspicious that a Brazilian anthtopologist is trying to prove the first people in the Americas were in Brazil or adjacent nations???
16 posted on 06/15/2003 9:54:48 PM PDT by Porterville (I support US total global, world domination; how's that for sensitive??)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: blam
". . . my threads"

In more than five years here, I have never before seen that.

Now, "my web site", I've seen that. Of course, he owns the place.

yitbos

17 posted on 06/15/2003 9:55:22 PM PDT by bruinbirdman (Veritas Vos Liberabit)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: blam
fascinating stuff!
18 posted on 06/15/2003 9:55:32 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Iran Mullahs will feel the heat from our Iraq victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: blam
Bump
19 posted on 06/15/2003 9:56:25 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (~~~ http://www.ourgangnet.net ~~~~~)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Porterville

Spirit Cave Man Is the oldest mummy ever found in the Americas. He died in his mid-40's, 9,400 years ago in Nevada. Still had all his clothes and his shoes on when found.

Some believe he is from the same human group as Kennewick Man, Buhl Woman and many un-named others.

20 posted on 06/15/2003 9:58:20 PM PDT by blam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 141-150 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson