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Minutemen of the Third Reich: History of the Nazi Werwolf Guerrilla Movement
History Today ^ | October 2000 | Perry Biddiscombe

Posted on 07/24/2003 7:58:27 PM PDT by Angelus Errare

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To: Ohioan
Your political spectrum is a revision. Not the original. Like I said, based on the model invented by the French from which your source took the terms and changed it. It is a useless link for an inaccurate classification. I repeated myself because what I said was clear and accurate thus needing no more explanation.

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_spectrum

Historical Origin of the Terms

The usage in Western politics of "right" and "left" to refer to political affiliation stems at least from the French National Assembly in 1789, during the French Revolution. There, the Second Estate, or nobility, sat to the right of the chamber, and the Third Estate, or common people (at the time the radicals) to the left. Thus, "right" generally meant conservative, upholding the existing social or political order, and "left" meant radical, attempting to change or overthrow the existing order. The usage may actually be earlier, from the pre-Revolutionary Estates-General, where right and left referred to supporters and opponents of the monarchy.

81 posted on 07/26/2003 4:27:27 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Dr.Deth
See, they lost me right there. What's so difficult to remember about National Socialism being a proud member of the radical left?

The Nazis were a blend of Left and right--why did you not highlight the Nationalist part?

82 posted on 07/26/2003 4:28:32 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
Thanks the link for the book on "The Avengers"
PBS (KCET) had one special on about the work of these sorts of groups.

Not that I like the idea of extra-legal justice...but if I'd lost a fair chunk of
my family and had the chance to assure something like justice was
meted out to these animals...I don't know what I'd have done...
83 posted on 07/26/2003 4:38:06 PM PDT by VOA
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To: VOA
My feelings on the Jewish Avengers group are captured in the words of Chris Rock: "I do not condone what OJ did...but I understand"


84 posted on 07/26/2003 6:08:29 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
The usage in Western politics of "right" and "left" to refer to political affiliation stems at least from the French National Assembly in 1789, during the French Revolution. There, the Second Estate, or nobility, sat to the right of the chamber, and the Third Estate, or common people (at the time the radicals) to the left. Thus, "right" generally meant conservative, upholding the existing social or political order, and "left" meant radical, attempting to change or overthrow the existing order. The usage may actually be earlier, from the pre-Revolutionary Estates-General, where right and left referred to supporters and opponents of the monarchy.

That is a correct statement. If you read Chapter 7, The Lies Of Socialism, I make a similar argument, in my long list of examples of the Leftist position of the National Socialists. By your definition, above, the Nazis were clearly and unambiguously on the Left and the Founding Fathers were on the Right.

The Foundig Fathers were basically defending their existing orders, built up by the various settler societies literally from the ground up, from a new level of British interference, following the French & Indian Wars--our part of the World War known as the Seven Years War. They were hardly trying to undermine the social structure of their own creation.

Chapter 12, Political Spectrum just illustrates the verbal argument from Chapter 7, and basically illustrates your example from the French Assembly, but adopted to a more general analysis of other nations.

William Flax

85 posted on 07/28/2003 10:10:08 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Angelus Errare
Yet another lesson for my homeschoolers -g- Bump!
86 posted on 07/30/2003 6:42:19 PM PDT by JustPiper (Am I going or are you coming? Socialist Democratic = Commie!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
I dunno, you say there's werewolves, Destro says there weren't. Who am I to believe?
87 posted on 08/01/2003 12:44:31 AM PDT by graycamel
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To: Destro
Thanx. It's been so long since I've been on that I forgot what I posted.
88 posted on 08/01/2003 12:45:13 AM PDT by graycamel
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To: graycamel
It's not a matter of "belief." The Werewolves DID exist. They did conduct attacks on Americans using "troops" as young as twelve. The only dispute is over the extent of their involvement. Most histories agree that the Werewolves mounted less than half of all the attacks on military occupiers of Germany.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, now up FR, "Sixteen Little Words."

89 posted on 08/04/2003 10:16:54 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob ("Don't just stand there. Run for Congress." www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Thanx. I got tired of Free Republic so I've been off for 2 weeks. I'm back.
90 posted on 08/07/2003 10:56:32 PM PDT by graycamel
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