Neuharth Panel Asks: "Is Media Fair?' (BARF-O-RAMA Alert! Judy Woodruff bashes Fox, & other laughs)

Yankton Daily Press & Dakotan ^ | September 26, 2003 | Randy Dockendorf

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There are so many laugh-out-loud howlers from these pontificating snobs, I don't even know where to begin. Since it's 6:15 am, I won't even bother for now. Just read and enjoy.

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CNN Schadenfreude / Media Shenanigans ping...

You GOTTA read this one!

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fox fan ping

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Daschle was deeply saddened that Bush" failed so miserably on the diplomatic front" and was saddened that "one life must be lost" because of Bush's failure.

We were outraged at his spin as the French had been all over the world working against us.You bet we thought he was not speaking in our country's best interest and gave aid and comfort to our enemies.

The comment that media giants are owned mostly by conservatives doesn't fly.Non interference is a must they tell me.The reporters are libs and the bias shows.

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The comment that media giants are owned mostly by conservatives doesn't fly.Non interference is a must they tell me.The reporters are libs and the bias shows.

No, the comment doesn't fly. I can vouch for it at the network level from personal experience, and so can mhking. The corporate suits try to spike an average of a single story every two to three YEARS (invariably something bad about the company itself), and even then, if they succeed at all, they succeed only at their own news organization. Every other outlet will still happily carry the bad/embarrassing news. (Anyone here really think Time Warner would go out of its way to stop CNN from reporting something that makes Disney look bad? They're archrivals; Time Warner HATES Disney!)

On the other hand, the vast majority of the reporters, producers, editors, etc., are all partisan Democrats, and it affects every story they work on every single day.

There's a reason the conservative Media Research Center puts out 1500-word reports every day listing example after example of direct liberal bias, while the liberal Fairness & Accuracy in Reporting only puts out one press release every three weeks or so.

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

If you can paint your opponent as an extremist and yourself as sweet reason, you have won the debate. So "objectivity" is the high PR ground, and it is natural for journalists to use their PR power to claim it.

The easy way to success being to go along and get along, journalists have adopted a system for avoiding unnecessary contention for the status of "objective journalist." Adherence to this code by journalists means that it is sensible to speak of "journalism" as an entity, an Estatblishment.

It is of the nature of an Establishment that, like the mafia, it "doesn't exist"--but you'd better not cross it! The journalistic Establishment coheres in the following code:

The objectivity of anyone who adheres to the party line that journalists are objective is never challenged by any other member of journalism Establishment.

If a Bernard Goldberg does write a Bias, he does not cease being a journalist--he is an unperson who never was a journalist.

[gaspar]

The AP's Tom Curley is either totally mendacious or a fool, or likely both. His argument that most media is owned by conservatives is a smokescreen behind which liberals have hidden for years, and Curley knows it.

If you want the worst reporting from Iraq, almost invariably with an anti-administration bent, just check the AP.

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Reuters gets my vote for anti American bias.

[ABG(anybody but Gore)]

Woodruff added that the motto should be unnecessary for any news organization. "Fox is concerned about its news reputation. At CNN, we don't need to use those terms," she said.

That's right Judy. CNN no longer has a reputation for delivering accurate news. Only the New York Times has a worse reputation these days.

[massadvj]

...most media are owned by Republican conservatives...

as opposed to true conservatives.

[mhking]

Woodruff added that the motto should be unnecessary for any news organization. "Fox is concerned about its news reputation. At CNN, we don't need to use those terms," she said.

Woodruff is full of used food.

CNN is so concerned with their reputation that it ain't funny.

They know they look like sh*t, and that consumers are calling them on it. That's why the bad-mouthing of FNC all the time.

All these folks are upset that any "independent" voice would stray from the "journalistic ideal" that these morons all are hammered with in J-school. And when Fox took the model and turned it on it's ear and people responded, all hell broke loose.

CNN and the others are looking over their shoulders when they walk, now. They know the writing is on the wall.

[leadpencil1]

What a freak'in joke. The main stream media (msm) has been so biased for so long that it (a) IS fair and balanced to those people who are in the middle of it every day and (b) becomes the middleground or yardstick used to measure wether or not anything out side of the msm is "fair and objective".

Using that paradigm, anything besides communism appears to be "extreme" right wing. The way they so smugly sit there and state it like gospel makes my blood boil. It evaporates when I hear people who watch that crap agree with them out of ignorance.

[leprechaun9]

Woodruff and her former co-propagandist, Bernard Shaw,are two monuments to the quota system of Affirmative Action!

[leprechaun9]

Woodruff and her former co-propagandist, Bernard Shaw,are two monuments to the quota system of Affirmative Action!

[PGalt]

Good comments bump. The propaganda machine is breaking down. Judy Woodruff reminds me of "weeping Patsy Schroeder". She is clueless.

[Peach]

And I see that CNN hasn't learned a thing from their ratings plunge.

[Brian Allen]

<< .... the media also creates [sic] a feeding frenzy, MacNeil said. He pointed to the mixture of horror and titillation found in ... Clinton's lying sexual activity.

"The media enjoyed .... the greatest ["presidential"] plunge into depravity that ever happened," MacNeil said. >>

Glad some enjoyed it.

The other 99.9999% of Americans and of the FRee World's population will spend the next few decades suffering the consequences of that predatory, treasonous, lying, looting, mass-murdering, serial-rapist sack of sh*t having, along with his co-serially-raping gang, for eight long years, so squalidly squatted and bemanured our once most hallowed house.

Those who staff the world's media are recruited exclusively from the detritrous tank that collects the oozings and excretions of the talent pool's intellectually and morally insolvent bottom feeders.

The lowest of the low.

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

All these folks are upset that any "independent" voice would stray from the "journalistic ideal" that these morons all are hammered with in J-school. And when Fox took the model and turned it on it's ear and people responded, all hell broke loose.

Journalistic Rules for Ideological Objectivity:

Rule 1: Never allow criticism of the objectivity of a journalist.

Rule 2: Never allow the sacred honorific, "objective journalist," to be applied to anyone of the left or of the right.

Rule 3: Never allow a specific, real existing human to be described as "left."

See also, my #6 . . .

[Jabba the Nutt]

Bingo! Wasn't it CNN's Christine Amanpour, who said that CNN muzzled itself during the Iraq Battle, because of intimidation by FOX News and the Bush Administration. If they didn't care about Fox, why would Amanpour say this?

Yes, Judy Woodruff, a news organization shouldn't have to label itself "fair and balanced", it's a damn shame. Fox has ridden that hoss to the top of the ratings by being "fair and balanced". CNN has sunk, because patriotic Americans know CNN as the Commie News Network or the Clinton News Network. We know America haters when we see them.

Well, of course, almost no one sees them at CNN anymore, because almost no one watches it anymore.

I did flip over and watched a couple minutes of Paula Zahn with Anderson Cooper. They had some General on and asked him if the media was reporting fairly, the Iraq Battle aftermath. The General mealy-mouthed about news being in the eye of the beholder, with that nonsense, I flipped back to Fox, since the commercial was probably over.

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MacNeil criticized the motto as misleading. "The Fox claim is a con on the public ... The network is blatantly unbalanced," he said, adding that the network has used patriotism to promote the right wing and Bush administration.

Woodruff added that the motto should be unnecessary for any news organization. "Fox is concerned about its news reputation. At CNN, we don't need to use those terms," she said.

Routine pablum of members of an Establishment (see my #6) pecking at a "pretender" to membership . . . while

While journalists are often accused of having a liberal bias, "most media are owned by Republican conservatives, so there is a healthy balance and tension" within the news operation, Curley said.

. . . denying that the Establishment even exists.