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To: Rurudyne
An analysis well beyond my modest capabilities but I will share with you that I view Hell as having the presence of God removed from one's soul.

I know there are several interpretations of "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" but I often wonder if perhaps, when taking on the sins of the world, Jesus was, for a moment, seperated from his Father. What pain that would have been.

So for those that refuse God's love in life get their wish in Hell. Could the drop of water the rich man was asking for to experience God's love once again? Is the fire the desire to have God's love back, once realized?

Or in more common parlance "you don't know what you got till it's gone".

Sorry, a reply not worthy of yours, I appreciate the opportunity to have read it, thanks.

6 posted on 11/11/2006 11:39:00 PM PST by Proud_texan
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To: Proud_texan
The soul of wit!

Your response was well made by any standard.

In truth, just because I can form an idea and wrap a lot of words around it––there are those who'd maintain I wouldn't know "brief" if if bit me bum––that doesn't mean I actually know of what I speak.

I'll be the first to admit that, which is why I tried to point out that this wasn't some great doctrine. Pity me if I ever start acting like I'm someone special.

As for that moment of death on the cross, have you ever thought about the tearing of the veil? Sure, it was a miracle that was probably responsible for all those priest coming to believe in Him; however, there may be another, more humble explanation.

What do the fathers of Jewish boys do when their son dies?

They tear their garments.

The veil was essentially God's garment on Earth even if his glory no longer indwelt the Temple.

I do wonder what the priest in attendance saw that day.

The form of a massive hand grasping the veil and tearing it asunder in one swift downward motion?

Something to ask him about later, I suppose.

7 posted on 11/12/2006 12:03:54 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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