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To: Proud_texan
The soul of wit!

Your response was well made by any standard.

In truth, just because I can form an idea and wrap a lot of words around it––there are those who'd maintain I wouldn't know "brief" if if bit me bum––that doesn't mean I actually know of what I speak.

I'll be the first to admit that, which is why I tried to point out that this wasn't some great doctrine. Pity me if I ever start acting like I'm someone special.

As for that moment of death on the cross, have you ever thought about the tearing of the veil? Sure, it was a miracle that was probably responsible for all those priest coming to believe in Him; however, there may be another, more humble explanation.

What do the fathers of Jewish boys do when their son dies?

They tear their garments.

The veil was essentially God's garment on Earth even if his glory no longer indwelt the Temple.

I do wonder what the priest in attendance saw that day.

The form of a massive hand grasping the veil and tearing it asunder in one swift downward motion?

Something to ask him about later, I suppose.

7 posted on 11/12/2006 12:03:54 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Rurudyne
I submit a possible explanation of the rending of the veil.

From my reading of the use of the temple, the outer temple was for the people and the inner part of the temple was for the chief priest alone, the holy of holies so to speak where the Ark was kept. The veil separates the two.

When Jesus, who brought a new covenant of God to the people including non-Israelites, died the veil was rent, that lawful separation of the people from the holy presence of God was done away with and each person can now come to that place through faith and belief through Christ.

God's salvation though the mediation of priests and rabbis was ended and the reaching of salvation of each individual through Christ began.

Previously, the salvation of God was available only through Israelite bloodlines. That ended, too.

10 posted on 11/12/2006 7:34:42 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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