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Knights Templar win heresy reprieve after 700 years
Yahoo ^ | Thu Oct 11, 8:33 PM ET | By Philip Pullella

Posted on 10/12/2007 11:41:08 AM PDT by xzins

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - The Knights Templar, the medieval Christian military order accused of heresy and sexual misconduct, will soon be partly rehabilitated when the Vatican publishes trial documents it had closely guarded for 700 years.

A reproduction of the minutes of trials against the Templars, "'Processus Contra Templarios -- Papal Inquiry into the Trial of the Templars'" is a massive work and much more than a book -- with a 5,900 euros (4,125 pounds) price tag.

"This is a milestone because it is the first time that these documents are being released by the Vatican, which gives a stamp of authority to the entire project," said Professor Barbara Frale, a medievalist at the Vatican's Secret Archives.

"Nothing before this offered scholars original documents of the trials of the Templars," she told Reuters in a telephone interview ahead of the official presentation of the work on October 25.

The epic comes in a soft leather case that includes a large-format book including scholarly commentary, reproductions of original parchments in Latin, and -- to tantalise Templar buffs -- replicas of the wax seals used by 14th-century inquisitors.

Reuters was given an advance preview of the work, of which only 799 numbered copies have been made.

One parchment measuring about half a metre wide by some two metres long is so detailed that it includes reproductions of stains and imperfections seen on the originals.

Pope Benedict will be given the first set of the work, published by the Vatican Secret Archives in collaboration with Italy's Scrinium cultural foundation, which acted as curator and will have exclusive world distribution rights.

The Templars, whose full name was "Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon", were founded in 1119 by knights sworn to protecting Christian pilgrims visiting the Holy Land after the Crusaders captured Jerusalem in 1099.

They amassed enormous wealth and helped finance wars of some European monarchs. Legends of their hidden treasures, secret rituals and power have figured over the years in films and bestsellers such as "The Da Vinci Code".

The Knights have also been portrayed as guardians of the legendary Holy Grail, the cup used by Christ at the Last Supper before his crucifixion.

The Vatican expects most copies of the work to be bought up by specialised libraries at top universities and by leading medieval scholars.

BURNED AT THE STAKE

The Templars went into decline after Muslims re-conquered the Holy Land at the end of the 13th century and were accused of heresy by King Philip IV of France, their foremost persecutor. Their alleged offences included denying Christ and secretly worshipping idols.

The most titillating part of the documents is the so-called Chinon Parchment, which contains phrases in which Pope Clement V absolves the Templars of charges of heresy, which had been the backbone of King Philip's attempts to eliminate them.

Templars were burned at the stake for heresy by King Philip's agents after they made confessions that most historians believe were given under duress.

The parchment, also known as the Chinon Chart, was "misplaced" in the Vatican archives until 2001, when Frale stumbled across it.

"The parchment was catalogued incorrectly at some point in history. At first I couldn't believe my eyes. I was incredulous," she said.

"This was the document that a lot of historians were looking for," the 37-year-old scholar said.

Philip was heavily indebted to the Templars, who had helped him finance his wars, and getting rid of them was a convenient way of cancelling his debts, some historians say.

Frale said Pope Clement was convinced that while the Templars had committed some grave sins, they were not heretics.

SPITTING ON THE CROSS

Their initiation ceremony is believed to have included spitting on the cross, but Frale said they justified this as a ritual of obedience in preparation for possible capture by Muslims. They were also said to have practised sodomy.

"Simply put, the pope recognised that they were not heretics but guilty of many other minor crimes -- such as abuses, violence and sinful acts within the order," she said. "But that is not the same as heresy."

Despite his conviction that the Templars were not guilty of heresy, in 1312 Pope Clement ordered the Templars disbanded for what Frale called "the good of the Church" following his repeated clashes with the French king.

Frale depicted the trials against the Templars between 1307 and 1312 as a battle of political wills between Clement and Philip, and said the document means Clement's position has to be reappraised by historians.

"This will allow anyone to see what is actually in documents like these and deflate legends that are in vogue these days," she said.

Rosi Fontana, who has helped the Vatican coordinate the project, said: "The most incredible thing is that 700 years have passed and people are still fascinated by all of this."

"The precise reproduction of the parchments will allow scholars to study them, touch them, admire them as if they were dealing with the real thing," Fontana said.

"But even better, it means the originals will not deteriorate as fast as they would if they were constantly being viewed," she said.


TOPICS: Catholic; General Discusssion; History
KEYWORDS: catholic; churchhistory; godsgravesglyphs; heresy; knights; knightstemplar; templar; vatican
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1 posted on 10/12/2007 11:41:11 AM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins
...with a 5,900 euros (4,125 pounds) price tag.

I'll wait for the paperback version.

2 posted on 10/12/2007 11:44:23 AM PDT by rdl6989
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To: xzins

Oh the conspiracy folks are going to have fun with these.


3 posted on 10/12/2007 11:45:21 AM PDT by Steelerfan
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To: xzins

This is like Hillary giving back campaign money two years after the election is over.


4 posted on 10/12/2007 11:46:46 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


5 posted on 10/12/2007 11:46:51 AM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to murder your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; opus86; Revelation 911; Corin Stormhands

This is a Friday Neener Friendly Thread.

I posted it.

It’s about Knights.

:>)


6 posted on 10/12/2007 11:49:22 AM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to murder your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: Steelerfan

I agree, the Illuminate(sp?)/Free Masons screams should begin in the next few minutes


7 posted on 10/12/2007 11:50:29 AM PDT by sticker
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To: uglybiker

Ping before the conspiracy crowd blows in.


8 posted on 10/12/2007 11:51:25 AM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian.)
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To: mnehrling
Ping before the conspiracy crowd blows in.

Ditto

9 posted on 10/12/2007 11:53:13 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Therefore the prudent keep silent at that time, for it is an evil time." - Amos 5:13)
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To: blackie

Ping for the nubile Hooter’s waitresses and ale.


10 posted on 10/12/2007 11:59:06 AM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian.)
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To: xzins
It is precisely 700 years ago this week, Friday October 13, 1307, that King Philip (Le Bel) of France sent his henchman, Guillaume de Nogaret (who had caused the death of the previous Pope Boniface so that Philip could install Clement and begin the Avignon Captivity) to betray and arrest the Templars in the Paris commandery.

Interesting timing.

I’m among those that think they were the good guys and that the bad guys have held their legacy hostage for all this time. I find it most instructive that they were the “bad guys” in the virulently anti-Christian book and movie The Da Vinci Code. The fact that story, among others, specifically echos the heresies of both the Islamists and the Gnostics and attempts to portray The Poor Knights of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon as the source of evil is instructive.

Liberals still practice this kind of lying. It’s called “projection.”  Accuse your enemies of your own crimes (or sins) and they can't then credibly bring out the truth against you.  It's where the "they all do it" defense came from.

11 posted on 10/12/2007 12:02:09 PM PDT by Phsstpok (When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring!)
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To: sticker

Doesn’t this prove that the Templar/Illuminati/Masonic/Bilderberger/New World Order conspiracy has finally infiltrated the Vatican, and issued this whitewash? /s


12 posted on 10/12/2007 12:04:01 PM PDT by hellbender (A)
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To: mnehrling; P-Marlowe; xzins; opus86; Revelation 911; Corin Stormhands

“Ping before the conspiracy crowd blows in.”

Not to worry, I have my secret decoder ring on so all are safe.


13 posted on 10/12/2007 12:09:12 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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Vatican paper set to clear Knights Templar
The Telegraph | 05/10/2007 | Malcolm Moore
Posted on 10/05/2007 4:44:50 AM EDT by Daffynition
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1906886/posts

Vatican book on Templars’ demise
BBC | October 5, 2007
Posted on 10/05/2007 4:44:55 PM EDT by NYer
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1907168/posts


14 posted on 10/12/2007 12:11:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, October 5, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins

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15 posted on 10/12/2007 12:11:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, October 5, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: blue-duncan; P-Marlowe; xzins; opus86; Revelation 911
The Knights Templar, the medieval Christian military order accused of heresy and sexual misconduct...

Would that make them Boogie Knights?

16 posted on 10/12/2007 12:15:53 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (i'm so adjective i verb nouns...)
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To: hellbender

you forgot the Skull and Bones/Girl Scouts/Space Aliens at Area 51


17 posted on 10/12/2007 12:16:12 PM PDT by sticker
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To: sticker
almost forgot:
18 posted on 10/12/2007 12:23:45 PM PDT by sticker
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To: xzins

here is another link:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8S7S5I82&show_article=1&catnum=0

Vatican to Publish Templar Trial Papers


19 posted on 10/12/2007 12:25:02 PM PDT by RDTF (Proud member of the lunatic fringe)
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A Country Funeral

As a young minister, I was asked by a funeral director to hold a grave-side service for a homeless man, with no family or friends. The funeral was to be held at a cemetery way back in the country, and this man would be the first to be laid to rest there.

As I was not familiar with the backwoods area, I became lost; and being a typical man did not stop for directions. I finally arrived an hour late.
I saw the backhoe and the crew, who were eating lunch, but the hearse was nowhere in sight.
I apologized to the workers for my tardiness, stepped to the side of the open grave and saw that the vault lid was already in place. I assured the workers I would not hold them up for long, but this was the proper thing to do. The workers gathered around, still eating their lunch. I poured out my heart and soul. As I preached, the workers began to say “Amen,” “Praise the Lord,” and “Glory”! I preached, and I preached, like I’d never preached before, from Genesis all the way to Revelations. I closed the lengthy service with a prayer and walked to my car.

As I was opening the door and taking off my coat, I overheard one of the workers saying to another, “I ain’t never seen anything like that before, and I’ve been putting in septic tanks for twenty years.”


20 posted on 10/12/2007 12:25:52 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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