Posted on 05/02/2008 12:03:45 PM PDT by colorcountry
WASHINGTON (CNS) -- In an effort to block posthumous rebaptisms by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Catholic dioceses throughout the world have been directed by the Vatican not to give information in parish registers to the Mormons' Genealogical Society of Utah.
An April 5 letter from the Vatican Congregation for Clergy, obtained by Catholic News Service in late April, asks episcopal conferences to direct all bishops to keep the Latter-day Saints from microfilming and digitizing information contained in those registers.
The order came in light of "grave reservations" expressed in a Jan. 29 letter from the Vatican Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the clergy congregation's letter said.
Father James Massa, executive director of the U.S. bishops' Secretariat of Ecumenical and Interreligious Affairs, said the step was taken to prevent the Latter-day Saints from using records -- such as baptismal documentation -- to posthumously baptize by proxy the ancestors of church members.
Posthumous baptisms by proxy have been a common practice for the Latter-day Saints -- commonly known as Mormons -- for more than a century, allowing the church's faithful to have their ancestors baptized into their faith so they may be united in the afterlife, said Mike Otterson, a spokesman in the church's Salt Lake City headquarters.
In a telephone interview with CNS May 1, Otterson said he wanted a chance to review the contents of the letter before commenting on how it will affect the Mormons' relationship with the Catholic Church.
"This dicastery is bringing this matter to the attention of the various conferences of bishops," the letter reads. "The congregation requests that the conference notifies each diocesan bishop in order to ensure that such a detrimental practice is not permitted in his territory, due to the confidentiality of the faithful and so as not to cooperate with the erroneous practices of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints."
The letter is dated 10 days before Pope Benedict XVI's April 15-20 U.S. visit, during which he presided over an ecumenical prayer service attended by two Mormon leaders. It marked the first time Mormons had participated in a papal prayer service.
Father Massa said he could see how the policy stated in the letter could strain relations between the Catholic Church and the Latter-day Saints.
"It certainly has that potential," he said. "But I would also say that the purpose of interreligious dialogue is not to only identify agreements, but also to understand our differences. As Catholics, we have to make very clear to them their practice of so-called rebaptism is unacceptable from the standpoint of Catholic truth."
The Catholic Church will eventually open a dialogue with the Mormons about the rebaptism issue, Father Massa said, "but we are at the beginning of the beginning of a new relationship with the LDS. The first step in any dialogue is to establish trust and to seek friendship."
The two faiths share intrinsic viewpoints on key issues the United States is facing, particularly the pro-life position on abortion and an opposition to same-sex marriage.
However, theological differences have cropped up between Mormons and Catholics in the past.
In 2001 the Vatican's doctrinal congregation issued a ruling that baptism conferred by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints cannot be considered a valid Christian baptism, thus requiring converts from that religion to Catholicism to receive a Catholic baptism.
"We don't have an issue with the fact that the Catholic Church doesn't recognize our baptisms, because we don't recognize theirs," Otterson said. "It's a difference of belief."
When issuing its 2001 ruling, the Vatican said that even though the Mormon baptismal rite refers to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, the church's beliefs about the identity of the three persons are so different from Catholic and mainline Christian belief that the rite cannot be regarded as a Christian baptism.
Latter-day Saints regard Jesus and the Holy Spirit as children of the Father and the Heavenly Mother. They believe that baptism was instituted by the Father, not Christ, and that it goes back to Adam and Eve.
Msgr. J. Terrence Fitzgerald -- vicar general of the Diocese of Salt Lake City -- said he didn't understand why the Latter-day Saints church was singled out in this latest Vatican policy regarding parish records.
"We have a policy not to give out baptismal records to anyone unless they are entitled to have them," Msgr. Fitzgerald said of his diocese. "That isn't just for the Church of the Latter-day Saints. That is for all groups."
Though he said the Salt Lake City Diocese has enjoyed a long-standing dialogue with the Latter-day Saints, Msgr. Fitzgerald said the diocese does not support giving the Mormons names for the sake of rebaptism.
Mormons have been criticized by several other faiths -- perhaps most passionately by the Jews -- for the church's practice of posthumous baptism.
Members of the Latter-day Saints believe baptizing their ancestors by proxy gives the dead an opportunity to embrace the faith in the afterlife. The actual baptism-by-proxy ceremony occurs in a Mormon temple, and is intended to wash sins away for the commencement of church membership.
Jewish leaders have called the practice arrogant and said it is disrespectful to the dead, especially Holocaust victims.
"Baptism by proxy is a fundamentally important doctrine of the Latter-day Saints," Otterson said. "We have cooperative relationships with churches, governments -- both state and national -- going back to the last century. Our practice of negotiating for records and making them available for genealogical research is very well known."
Father Massa said he is not aware of aggressive attempts to obtain baptismal records at Catholic parishes in any of the U.S. dioceses.
He also said the Catholic Church will continue to reach out to the Mormons and carry on the efforts of understanding that have already begun, especially in Salt Lake City.
"Profound theological differences are not an excuse for avoiding dialogue, but a reason for pursuing dialogue," Father Massa said.
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Narses, this might be of special interest to you.
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I am not Catholic. I’m just posting the news, here. Perhaps you should ask your Priest.
” In an effort to block posthumous rebaptisms by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints”
Why would they worry about it?
Source for Smith's assessment of the Catholic Church: Pearl of Great Price LDS "Scripture," Joseph Smith - History, vv. 18-20.
I’m not Catholic but I find the whole thing a hoot.
Baptizing dead people by proxy is utterly ridiculous but no more so than some of the other weird crap the mormons have come up with.
Perhaps because they view the “rebaptism” of their dead, by a group they don’t consider Christian to be sacreligious and disrespectful.
I wouldn’t like it, would you?
I just had this image of a women sitting in a chair having a cocktail with a priest in Heaven and suddenly a voice calls out:
“Edith Miller, please report to the Mormon district”
“DAMN! Hold my drink, father”
I won’t care. They can have at it.
LOL. n i c e !
Oh....Man? You mean I can’t get me another 72, 14 year old dead Catholics up there? Now they have gone way too far.
Honey...........wait until you hear this.
Arrrggghh, this will impact genealogists so much. SLC has the best records in the world; people come from Germany to look up German records which they cannot access in their own countries. And since the majority of Europeans are/ have been Catholic, it has been just wonderful to have access to them.
Um, why is the Catholic church worried about any Mormon re-baptisms. They don’t actually believe that counts, do they?
Isn’t this the religious equivalent of the Democrats putting the dead on their voters lists?
It’s a matter of disrespect and arrogance.
Let’s say I created a ceremony to make all their ancestors gay. Now, the fact that they don’t believe in my ceremony doesn’t change the fact that my doing so is disrespectful to their grandparents and the choices he/she made while alive. It’s arrogant of me to assume that anyone but myself wants it and that I have any sort of power to do so.
It doesn’t matter if I can smile and say...”But your grandpa can still choose not to accept homosexuality up in heaven. This just gives him the opportunity to be gay since he didn’t know about it in this life.”
It wouldn’t be a homo vs. hetero argument at all...it’s a simple case of respect for someone’s completed life.
Do LDS believe that the souls of the unbaptised-LDS dead are in hell? Do they believe that picking a name out of a book and “performing” a baptism on the name of a dead person moves their soul from hell to heaven? Not being sarcastic, I just really have no idea what this is supposed to accomplish.
As a person who was once LDS, I will try to explain it.
Mormons believe in three levels of heaven. ALL people (universal salvation) get to one of the levels. There are required ordinances that one must perform in order to move to a higher Kingdoms. Without a Mormon baptism, one is relegated to the lower kingdom, never having a chance to dwell with God in the highest Kingdom or Christ who is a separate personage.
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