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Bioethicist priest: Why the Church says 'yes' to adult stem cell research and 'no' to
theBeacon ^ | 10.25.07 | MICHAEL WOJCIK

Posted on 03/03/2009 1:11:12 PM PST by Coleus

altCONVENT STATION - Medical research has been moving at such a lightening pace, it almost doesn't seem far off that doctors in the future might tell many of their seriously ill patients, "Take two stem cells and call me in the morning."  That joke, taken from a political cartoon, points to the fact that the rapidly developing field of stem cell research is growing at a breakneck pace, giving hope of cures to countless patients suffering from diseases such as brain cancer and heart disease and conditions such as spinal cord injury.

About these medical developments, the Catholic Church asks a critical question - what are the sources of these stem cells for these treatments and research?, declared Father Tadeusz Pacholczyk, a noted bioethicist, who spoke Oct. 16 at the College of St. Elizabeth here.  The question is essential, because the Church supports research on adult stem cells. Research using adult stem cells, doesn't destroy human life - in particular, the lives of the pre-born destroyed in embryonic stem cell research. Thus far, all known cures and treatments in the stem cell research have come from adult stem cells, said Father Pacholczyk, education director of the Philadelphia-based National Catholic Bioethics Center.

The Church says, "no" to embryonic stem cell research because the embryo does not survive the extraction of the stem cells, said priest of the Diocese of Fall River, Mass., who spoke on "Cutting through the Spin on Stem Cells and Cloning" at CSE.   "Most forms of stem cell research are morally acceptable. The Church is not simply about 'no.' Most of what she says is about 'yes,'" said Father Pacholczyk, who earned a doctorate in neuroscience at Yale University, conducted post-doctoral research at Massachusetts General Hospital/Harvard Medical School and studied advanced dogmatic theology and bioethics in Rome.

Stem cells offer so much hope for patients because they offer tremendous possibility - scientists can turn them into any type of desired tissue, including those for the heart, spinal cord and pancreas, Father Pacholczyk told a audience of more than 200 people, including doctors, pro-life advocates, CSE students and citizens.  Still people from many quarters of society, among them scientists, actors, politicians and members of the media, have been sounding an ever-louder drumbeat to push government officials to finance embryonic stem cell research. They claim embryonic stem cell research offers the greatest hope for cures to diseases such as Parkinson's, even though science suggests otherwise, the priest said.

Issue arrives in New Jersey

Father Pacholczyk's presentation was timely, because on Election Day, Tuesday, Nov. 6, this hot-button issue will be coming to New Jersey. Residents will be asked to approve a bond issue that authorizes the state to borrow $450 million to fund stem cell research for 10 years, which the N.J. Catholic Conference, the state's public policy arm of the state's bishops, adamantly opposes. Father Pacholczyk echoed the state's bishops' stance on the bond issue, and urged Catholics and other concerned citizens to vote against the measure, which OKs funds for both adult stem cell and embryonic stem cell research.  In his often poignant talk, Father Pacholczyk asked Catholics to consider the "hype" presented by proponents of pro-embryonic stem cell research, which has yielded no cures so far.

"We believe that not to develop the (embryonic stem cell) technology would do great harm to more than 100 million patients in the Untied States alone, who are affected by diseases potentially treatable by the many medical applications of human embryonic stem cells," the priest said, quoting Thomas Okaram, president of Geron Bo-Med Limited, a U.K.-based company that has been pushing for such research.  In that same line of thinking, researchers argue that these embryos, which are usually "spare" embryos from vitro fertilizations, can be used to find cures rather be discarded, said Father Pacholczyk, an internationally known speaker on bioethics.

"That's a very seductive argument but it treats them as objects rather than subjects of infinite and inestimable value," said  Father Pacholczyk during his talk, which marked CSE 12th annual pro-life lecture for October, which the Catholic Church marks as Respect Life Month.  The researchers' apparent lack of respect for human life extends to the other methods they use or hope to use in extracting stem cells, he said. They collect another type of cell, a "germ cell," from aborted fetuses. In Massachusetts, they hope to change the law so they can make embryos for experimentation. Researchers also have been working on human cloning, he said.  Here's the trouble - many scientists view embryos as nothing more than "a bunch of dots," Father Pacholczyk said.  "These 'dots' are exactly from where you and I came from," the priest said. "The challenge is to reconnect with exactly where it is we came from. This not easy to do."

Adult, cord stem cell use success stories

¥ Cancer: Years ago, 21-year-old Patrizia Durante, pregnant with her daughter, was diagnosed with a severe form of leukemia and was given six months to live. Doctors delivered the baby early and gave her chemotherapy, which failed to arrest the cancer. So they introduced stem cells from her daughter's umbilical cord (the Church approves stem cells from umbilical cords and placenta blood) into Durante's body, which eliminated the cancer cells. She is now cancer-free.

¥ Heart disease: German doctors have extracted from heart-attack victims stem cells from their own bone marrow and introduced them into their damaged heart muscles or coronary arteries. These cells repair scar damage to the heart muscle.

¥ Spinal cord injury: Laura Dominguez of Texas was paralyzed from the waist down. She went to Portugal, where doctors extracted cells from her nasal cavity and used them to bridge the damaged site in her spinal cord. With physical therapy, Dominguez can flex her foot and walk short distances with braces. This type of treatment isn't a cure yet, but is "a reminder that we stand on the cusp of new era of regenerative medicine" using stem cells, said Father Tad Pacholczyk of the National Catholic Bioethics Center.

Acceptable sources of stem cells used to save lives

¥ Adult stem cells: extracted from adults with their consent from blood, skin, olfactory bulb, bone marrow, testicles, fat from liposuction as well as from other tissues.

¥ Pregnancy-related tissues: umbilical cord, placenta and amniotic fluid.

¥ Those in the womb who have died of natural causes from miscarriages-with the parents' permission.
¥ Cadavers up to 20 hours after death: neural cells.

- Source: Father Tad Pacholczyk, National Catholic Bioethics Center


TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Politics; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: adultstemcells; escr; frtad; stemcells
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1 posted on 03/03/2009 1:11:12 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Coleus

Good post. Yes, medicine is progressing at break necy speed. I can say that my ethics mirror exactly those of the RC Church, but they are saying something very important; folks there is another way to do this thing—and with good results. Why is there such a nihilistic insistance on using embryos when there is another way of achieving the good medicine is trying to accomplish.

Not that I expect the RC Church to condone the RU pill, the morning after pill or even a plain old condom. They don’t, they won’t and at least they are standing their ground. But why are the pro-choice folks so enamored with a barbaric procedure such as abortion—let alone partial birth abortion when other methods may be available (won’t make these methods any more ethical in the eyes of the Church)—just less barbaric. Makes you wonder if some of these folks aren’t possessed by the spirit of a human heart eating Aztec sun god needing the sacrifice of innocent human life.


2 posted on 03/03/2009 1:23:05 PM PST by brooklyn dave (Welcome to Socialism, Obama style)
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To: Coleus

It’s a shame that the RCC is behind the times in research, and would rather see embryos discarded like trash than to participate in research. They’d rather a person die than to have the cells of an already long-dead embryo go to their cure.


3 posted on 03/03/2009 1:39:50 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

Only the embryos that have been destroyed for their stem cells are “dead.” The rest, who are frozen, are in suspended animation.


4 posted on 03/03/2009 1:41:32 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480

They are against using the lines of stem cells harvested more than a decade ago.


5 posted on 03/03/2009 1:46:01 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

Speaking of being behind the times, embryonic stem cell research doesn’t work; I’m surprised that you don’t know that.


6 posted on 03/03/2009 1:49:42 PM PST by Coleus (Abortion, Euthanasia & FOCA - - don't Obama and the Democrats just kill ya!)
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To: Coleus
Thus far, all known cures and treatments in the stem cell research have come from adult stem cells [...]

Is that surprising, considering the first human clinical trial for embryonic stem cells was approved only three days after President Obama took office?!?

There's promise in this branch of research, even if there are many successes with adult/iPSC research.

Researchers produce blood in lab from embryonic stem cells

Researchers Use Human Embryonic Stem Cells To Kill Cancer Cells

Human embryonic stem cells become functional pancreatic cells

7 posted on 03/03/2009 1:52:16 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring
That optical storage stuff doesn't work...magnetic tapes are where it's at!





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8 posted on 03/03/2009 1:55:08 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

escr started in 1981 and to date there has NOT been one successful human clinical trial.


9 posted on 03/03/2009 2:01:01 PM PST by Coleus (Abortion, Euthanasia & FOCA - - don't Obama and the Democrats just kill ya!)
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...

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10 posted on 03/03/2009 2:02:39 PM PST by Coleus (Abortion, Euthanasia & FOCA - - don't Obama and the Democrats just kill ya!)
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To: Coleus

Please tell me the date of the first human clinical trial.


11 posted on 03/03/2009 2:03:41 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Coleus

I hate to break it to you, but the successful iPSC work was based on embryonic stem cell research.


12 posted on 03/03/2009 2:07:04 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring; Coleus; Pyro7480
"It’s a shame that the RCC is behind the times in research, and would rather see embryos discarded like trash than to participate in research."

First off, it's not the Church being "behind the times in research," it's some researchers being "behind the times in ethics." W-a-a-y behind the times. Following WWII, there was pretty much a consensus that scientists would not use research that derived from non-consenting experimental subjects. But I guess lessons learned have to be re-learned in every generation.

Second, it's not true that the Church "would rather see embryos discarded." You must have misunderstood something in your caeful reading of ethics, there. The Church would approve the adoption of these embryonic human beings in the wombs of "rescue moms," as such women volunteer. It's already happening with the participation of embryo adoption agencies--- though not nearly to the extent needed.

The Church has never approved either the in-vitro creation, nor the discarding/destruction, of a human embryo.

When discussing the snail-like "progress" of ESCR in developing anything that's medically usable (present therapeutic applications: -zero-), you consistently ignore the fact that it has never been illegal in the U.S. to use human germ cell lines of whatever provenance, or human embryos themselves, for experimentation. States are free to fund it. Universities are free to fund it. Consortia of private investors and speculators are free to fund it.

And why are they apparently lacking that good-ol' can-do spirit, that entrepreneurial enthusiasm? As you know --- because I've told you --- the Wall Street Journal made this pretty clear two years ago:

James Thomson, the first scientist to derive stem cells from a human embryo, made this point clearly just a few weeks ago: "I don't want to sound too pessimistic because this is all doable, but it's going to be very hard." He added, "those transplantation therapies should work but it's likely to take a long time."

"Leading British stem cell expert Lord Winston has been even more blunt: "I am not entirely convinced that embryonic stem cells will, in my lifetime, and possibly anybody's lifetime, for that matter, be holding quite the promise that we desperately hope they will."

Bottom line: private investment money for ESCR has been, at best, a trickle because of the remoteness of the possibility that it will ever pay off. Because as I said, after millions of dollars spent and cutting-edge experiments on 5 continents, all it's been able to produce in vivo is tumors.

But I repeat myself.

13 posted on 03/03/2009 3:25:16 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Pleased to be of service.)
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To: Gondring

I hate to break it to you, but the successful iPSC work was based on embryonic stem cell research. >>>

Um, I hate to break it to you, but ipsc work does NOT involve using embryos. In order to create and obtain these cells, the scientists, not the RCC or any other church, used retroviruses and gene therapy.


14 posted on 03/03/2009 3:49:46 PM PST by Coleus (Abortion, Euthanasia & FOCA - - don't Obama and the Democrats just kill ya!)
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To: Gondring
They’d rather a person die than to have the cells of an already long-dead embryo go to their cure.

The stem cells don't come from DEAD embryos. The embryos are ALIVE, at least until the stem cells are extracted.

The Church HAS kept up with the research, and she sees, as does anyone who honestly wants to cure disease, that ADULT stem cells are the only ones that have actually worked for that purpose.

15 posted on 03/03/2009 5:12:44 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

Adult stem cells didn’t work until they were tried. Embryonic stem cells have just had their first human clinical trial approved. Of course they haven’t helped yet.


16 posted on 03/03/2009 7:58:36 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: SuziQ
The stem cells don't come from DEAD embryos.

Actually, that's true.

The embryos are ALIVE, at least until the stem cells are extracted.

That's not true. The cells used in these experiments come from subculturing a line, not from a live embryo.

17 posted on 03/03/2009 8:08:40 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
The Church would approve the adoption of these embryonic human beings in the wombs of "rescue moms," as such women volunteer. It's already happening with the participation of embryo adoption agencies--- though not nearly to the extent needed.

And if people don't buy the bread, you'd rather it be discarded than given to the hungry?

By your own implication ("not nearly to the extent needed"), embryos are discarded. That is occurring...it's a fact. And given that end, or the alternative (participation in research), the RCC chooses against the latter.

And why are they apparently lacking that good-ol' can-do spirit, that entrepreneurial enthusiasm?

Perhaps because there's funding available elsewhere.

"[...] those transplantation therapies should work but it's likely to take a long time." --James Thomson, pointing out the promise of the research path.

"[...] be holding quite the promise that we desperately hope they will." --Lord Winston, downplaying hopes, but not saying they won't be helpful.

Bottom line: private investment money for ESCR has been, at best, a trickle because of the remoteness of the possibility that it will ever pay off. Because as I said, after millions of dollars spent and cutting-edge experiments on 5 continents, all it's been able to produce in vivo is tumors.

That claim is demonstrably false, but I have no reason to believe you will stop using it even if I falsify it again. However, any honest third party can do a Google search and see that you're wrong.

But I repeat myself.

Yes, you do...despite being wrong.

18 posted on 03/03/2009 8:25:48 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Coleus
Um, I hate to break it to you, but ipsc work does NOT involve using embryos.

Sorry, but even if there aren't embryonic cells used now, they were used in early stages of the research. Shinya Yamanaka studied embryonic stem cells to identify the most active genes in them, to know what to try inserting into non-pluripotent cells with retroviruses.

Without the look at embryonic stem cells, the Kyoto team wouldn't have known what to do to get the embryonic stem cell action.

19 posted on 03/03/2009 8:39:56 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

They originally come from embryos that are alive. You can’t get a cell line, without having had an embryo to begin with.


20 posted on 03/03/2009 8:54:05 PM PST by SuziQ
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