Skip to comments.How the apostates take over (Part 1)
Posted on 03/17/2012 3:32:53 PM PDT by ReformationFan
The evangelical church is under constant threat to compromise its reliance on biblical truth. The human desire to be accepted, to not be seen as "outside the mainstream," can be overwhelming. But that desire is our weakness, our downfall. It does not always immediately destroy the dam we build to protect the waters of truth, but instead it leads to tiny fissures that grow until destruction is inevitable.
Twenty years ago, I experienced the painful demise of the Episcopal Church, which once was a bastion of biblical truth. It was not a pretty picture. It was a picture painted in the primary colors of relentlessness and deception.
The combination of those elements inevitably led some sincere folks to weariness, and willingness to compromise, and yes, ultimately to surrender. For those who sought peace at any price, conformity over conviction, and popularity over principle, capitulation seemed the easier way out.
The initial compromise, which caused the first cracks in the dike, seemed innocent enough at the time: the ordination of women.
But to truly understand how that initial compromise caused a wave of liberalism to overcome biblical boundaries within the Episcopal Church (and soon by the rest of the mainline denominations), we have to understand the different groups involved.
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Sad reality bump. I and others vigorously fought the apostates in The Episcopagan Church and they viciously attacked and destroyed anyone who questioned them. That is also part of the story. There was no lie they would not tell about me and others to discredit us. There were whisper campaigns and malicioius gosspi.
In the end, everything I predicted would happen from women’s ordination has come true — and worse. People now say, “You were right.” But back then, they were cowardly and afraid. All has been lost. Never has a denomination fallen so far so fast as the Episcopagan Church. The so-called Presiding Bishop, Mz. Schori, is Satan’s own disciple. So was her predecessor and most of the bishops in the church since 1995.
To Catholics once-Catholic Father Martin Luther was the apostate who changed the New Testament because he thought that we could be saved by faith alone, that works weren't necessary. At first he wanted to exclude the letter of St. James because it focused on good works, not just faith. Luther's followers got Luther to change his mind about "his" bible and keep St. James in.
I also learned that the Episcopalian and Anglican Churches came from England and a king who dumped the faith of his fathers because he HAD to have a son. Son came and went before son was 20 and his six wives form a poem: divorced, beheaded, died, divorced, beheaded, survived.
I wonder at a church with those roots.
Those Churches, since then, have been as good as any Christian denomination. I was just discussing history, not the value of denominations.
‘Sad reality bump. I and others vigorously fought the apostates in The Episcopagan Church and they viciously attacked and destroyed anyone who questioned them. That is also part of the story. There was no lie they would not tell about me and others to discredit us. There were whisper campaigns and malicioius gossip.’
In the liberal mindset, no lie is a sin if it achieves the “greater good” a/k/a their taking over of an institution.
‘In the end, everything I predicted would happen from womens ordination has come true and worse. People now say, You were right. But back then, they were cowardly and afraid.’
Did they used to say to you things along the lines of “ordaining women will never lead to ordination of homosexuals and church endorsement of homosexual and pre-marital sexual behavior”?
The Reformed Episcopal Church I believe is supposed to be orthodox and solid-
That IS a sad reality bump. What are you doing now? Just curious. What DOES one do here?
Jesus DID come as a man and chose 12 men as His apostles. I've followed the American Catholic women who DEMAND that women be allowed to become priests. I wonder if it's just a better thing for men to be ministers/priests, since women have the privilege of giving life. I dunno.
In the late ‘90s, we had a growing Episcopal congregation near our summer home, and were in search of a new priest. The search committee had narrowed their choice to a Floridian when one of them said “We haven’t considered any minorities; can we look thorough the stack just once more?”
The choice was reversed - a tiny, sweet looking woman with minimal qualifications and brass ovaries the size of dump trucks became our new rector. The Result? Over 250 congregants driven off, including couples that had been attending for over 40 years. (One was actually excommunicated!) One by one, the search committee members resigned in shame or stopped coming. The bishop did nothing; the church is now in mission status. The pastor? No problem - she still has a full schedule and plenty to do:
The sad part of this is that so many of the former congregants will never set foot inside a church again.
I wonder if those Catholic women who demand to become priestesses ever demand their “right” to go be a missionary to an Islamic republic? Or their “right” to be crucified upside down like Simon Peter?
They evangelicals, in particular, used to say that ordination of women would not lead to further innovation. They were slitting their own throats, but they didn’t understand that they were. When gay ordination quickly followed they continued to deny the obvious. Now they’ve been thrown out of The Episcopagan Church or have left to found new churches outside Episcopaganism.
All the people I knew have scattered across the world of religion, from continuing churches, to Orthodox Churches, to Catholicism (including the new Ordinariate), and to Evangelical churches they do not recognize women’s ordination.
They don’t read the Bible and think whatever the politicians say as far as helping others is Christianity.
Homosexuality is plain old wrong. divorce and remarriage is plain old wrong. Pastors need to know this, dig into the facts with these divorced people marrying one another and tell them to go back to their original spouse that God has made them into one flesh and refuse to do the weddings.
sex outside marriage is plain old wrong. Also wrong is slef actualization. All psychologists should be kicked out of your congregations too because they are full of lies and deceptions and selfishness.
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