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Pope Francis tied up in Argentina's 'dirty war' debate
MSN News ^ | 3/15/13 | staff

Posted on 03/15/2013 6:50:18 AM PDT by traderrob6

Pope Francis' role as a priest more than 30 years ago during Argentina's 'dirty war' comes into question as he assumes the leadership of the Catholic Church.

BUENOS AIRES, Argentina – It's beyond dispute that Jorge Mario Bergoglio, like most other Argentines, failed to openly confront the 1976-1983 military junta as it kidnapped and killed thousands of people in a "dirty war" to eliminate leftist opponents.

But human rights activists differ on how much responsibility Pope Francis personally bears for the Argentine church's dark history of supporting the murderous dictatorship.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: catholic; pope; secularmedia
Ans so, the Pope bashing bottom feeders of the liberal secular media trying to dig up dirt on the new Pontiff.

So predictable.

1 posted on 03/15/2013 6:50:18 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: traderrob6

In other news, the sun rose in the east and a dog pissed on a fire hydrant in Brooklyn.


2 posted on 03/15/2013 6:55:32 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: traderrob6

It’s pretty much common knowledge, isn’t it?


3 posted on 03/15/2013 6:56:41 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: traderrob6

If the new pope is an anti-Commie, what is not to like.

He sounds pretty real world to me. I am not Catholic and will not be. But if he is an earthy Christian leader, I am cetainly supportive.

The Catholic Church leaders in several Central/South American countries for a long time have been leftist. There was a time in Nicaragua if you asked the quesion “where is the Catholic Church” the reply was “No one but the Communist go to the Catholic Church (Liberation Theology branch).”

Now understand that a lot of my Catholic friends (some family) are “Conservative” in every sense of the word.


4 posted on 03/15/2013 6:57:27 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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Once again with the "HE DIDN'T DO 'ENOUGH'!!!!" libel.

What would 'enough' be or have been?

Nobody knows.

But he obviously didn't do 'enough'.

The leftists and secularists and other malefactors say so ... and they would never lie to us.

5 posted on 03/15/2013 6:59:09 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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But did he vote “present”?


6 posted on 03/15/2013 7:01:08 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: don-o

“In other news, the sun rose in the east and a dog pissed on a fire hydrant in Brooklyn.” And King Putt works on his short game.


7 posted on 03/15/2013 7:04:47 AM PDT by Autonomous User (The Obama Doctrine: Blame America First.)
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Now understand that a lot of my Catholic friends (some family) are “Conservative” in every sense of the word.

My experience has been that most practicing Catholics are conservative.

Although you have many nutjobs that claim to be christians, if they are not Catholic they don't get assigned to any affiliation, nor do they generally claim one. They are just agnostics that like the trappings of Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and a church wedding. However, when these same people were baptised Catholic, they decide to continue claiming they are Catholic, while simultaneously denouncing the Church for its fundamental beliefs, "And they are authorities about it, because they are Catholic."

8 posted on 03/15/2013 7:06:43 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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DK Heads.

Always gotta be hate-uhs, looking to find fault with anyone, to bolster their “erudite” and egalitarian desperate need to find validation and relevancy by tearing down another person.

Hell, I ain’t even Catholic and this annoys me.


9 posted on 03/15/2013 7:09:22 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: SampleMan

We are Baptist, but have some family who are Catholic. Baptists do not claim roots in the Catholic Church. Valid disclaimerm which cannot be proven or proven false.

I/we are certainly not agnostic.

I do despise Commies and Lefttis Liars in general.


10 posted on 03/15/2013 7:14:37 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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The Catholic Church leaders in several Central/South American countries for a long time have been leftist. There was a time in Nicaragua if you asked the question “where is the Catholic Church” the reply was “No one but the Communist go to the Catholic Church (Liberation Theology branch).”

Absolutely true statement. Let the truth be known. However, almost no one is reporting. The MSM certainly won't touch it and those who know won't tell the truth.

11 posted on 03/15/2013 7:29:11 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: traderrob6

He’s been Pope for only a few days now and already the Lamestream has vetted him more than Obama ! This for somebody who cannot write a single one of our laws. (I guess when you worship at the alter of the State it makes sense to knock down competition)


12 posted on 03/15/2013 7:39:32 AM PDT by Nateman (If liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!)
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To: traderrob6

Yes they start their own “Dirty war” against the Pope.


13 posted on 03/15/2013 7:41:37 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

agreed


14 posted on 03/15/2013 7:48:58 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Autonomous User

“King Putt”!!!

LMAO

Made my day.

Now we need a Graphic with him on the golf course and a Burger King hat on.

heee heee heee


15 posted on 03/15/2013 7:51:20 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: traderrob6

I am not certain if he is guilty or not. I will have to learn more.

Popes have done far worse than Pope Francis is now accused of. So it is possible that he is guilty, and Catholics should not dismiss any allegations out of hand, like they often did in the sex abuse crisis. This applies even if the accuser is leftist, or is reported in a newspaper which does not respect Catholic teachings (this is still an ad hominem fallacy, since they should address the content of what is published and not the author or newspaper).

That being said, this article left me unconvinced that Pope Francis is guilty. The most damning thing which they saved for last appeared very weak to me. Maybe I am still missing something, but for now, I am unconvinced he did anything wrong.


16 posted on 03/15/2013 8:21:40 AM PDT by LovedSinner
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Absolutely true. My Baptist family who have lived in Argentina for 70 years have been tormented and abused by the Catholic church and the Argentine government.


17 posted on 03/15/2013 8:45:56 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in thee shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Texas Fossil
I think you misread my post, or I'm misreading yours.

I wasn't insulting non-Catholics. My point was that if you have someone who was raised in the Baptist faith, but then becomes agnostic, they don't generally continue calling themselves Baptists. Further, they don't act like they are speaking for the Baptist church, and the media doesn't poll them as Baptists.

Much like secular Jews still call themselves Jews, there is a tendency for secular Catholics to continue calling themselves Catholics. I don't see that much with protestants.

18 posted on 03/15/2013 12:55:01 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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Yes, I did misunderstand your comment.

Sorry, we do agree. I am as sensitive about this as you are.


19 posted on 03/15/2013 2:26:42 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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