Posted on 04/30/2013 3:33:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
“And yes, the work place, the mall, everywhere is the place to tell people that Jesus saves.”
Actually, no. The workplace is for work. Somebody is paying for your time to do their work, not God’s work. The pastor at this particular church told them “They can’t slam the door on you. Just stay in their face until they agree to come to church.” Wow, that got old. These weren’t even people you’d like to hold a conversation with. Nobody who is focused on something bizarre is fun to talk to. I think they were some kind of David Koresh type cult. All of us breathed a sigh of relieve when the company finally came down on them.
As to what religion gets singled out; of course we know. But the military has a problem. The Marines especially are generally very Christian.
Don’t give them any ideas.
They already have that one. I’ve been hearing all kinds of rumors and whispers that the military wants to shutdown all religious activities on military installations. It has almost become common place to hear it.
I don’t think your story is the topic of this thread. The military isn’t trying to shut down inappropriate religious activities, they want to call all religious activities inappropriate.
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a “religious crutch.”
(phase two: military)
http://www.napervilleteapatriots.com/images/Communist%20Goals%20Naked%20Communist%201958.htm
“The military isn’t trying to shut down inappropriate religious activities, they want to call all religious activities inappropriate.”
It’s not the military. It’s President Obama. Hopefully we’ll get a Christian in office; a President Palin, perhaps. This will all turn around. (I hope.)
I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
We've gone from "So help me God" being against regulation to "hi guy meet me in my bunk later" as legal military activity?
Huh???proselytizing = sedition and treason
The Caesars would have understood perfectly.
I hate to say this, but, with no moral compass to guide the military it will be easier for them to turn their guns on us.
What I was sort of saying but you said it a lot better.
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Nobody is suggesting you not work...but share your faith while you work.
If you can't talk about anything other than work (according to your definition) because someone is paying you to work...and if that is wrong...then you can probably courts martial every man and woman in the military...starting at the top. I've been in 26 years. I laid 5 clicks of C-Wire in Iraq. You telling me I should have just talked about C-Wire cause "I am being paid to work?"
Someone in this conversation has obviously never sat guard duty or mid night watch. The work place is for work...and chit-chat is everywhere in the military...and if we are going to say a work place is for work only...then you gotta lock up the entire military.
And what I said is true...we all know why this is being put forth...and it ain't to stop Muslims from sharing their faith.
“If you can’t talk about anything other than work (according to your definition) because someone is paying you to work...and if that is wrong...then you can probably courts martial every man and woman in the military...starting at the top.”
These people weren’t “talking” they were preaching. They’d corner you in your office and preach. Imagine you’re trying to determine the MTBF (mean time between failure) of a complex system. It is pages and pages of math. And this guy is prattling on about how only 33,000 people will be allowed into Heaven. These were never conversations. A conversation has input from both sides.
Looks like they will start moving against us.
Of course, since the number one recruiting grounds for the US military is in the states with the highest number of religious Christians, they will have a man power shortage very quickly.
I have to listen to that at work all the time. Mainly the religion of Al Gore (rabid enviromentalism) and the crazy breast cancer fund raising stuff.
Here is the thing. Most of what managers amuse themselves with has very little to do with the actual business. Same with the military. Yes, you are here to work, but you are still human.
“Here is the thing. Most of what managers amuse themselves with has very little to do with the actual business. Same with the military. Yes, you are here to work, but you are still human.”
My last job was with an ITT spin-off; a huge company. I had to sign a 10 page “ethics” statement. Part of it said that I agreed to never, ever under any circumstances tell a joke. I asked the HR lady why. She said, with eyes wide, “Oh, you never know who might overhear and take offense.” In essence, this “ethics” statement prohibited any private conversations and any use of the internet to look up, say, fishing tackle. You weren’t even supposed to do it on your break.
There were fewer personal interactions at this company than at any other place. Once, a guy told me a joke; the kind your preacher would tell. From his body language and paranoia you’d have thought we were conducting a drug deal.
Although this promoted the most professional environment I can ever recall, the morale was relatively low. People rarely spent any off-work time together. I think the entire operation was hurt by that. But I believe this is where we are all headed. Ask any younger person to tell you a joke and they can’t. Jokes have been beaten out of them by the school system because, “Oh, you have no idea who might overhear it and take offense!”
That environment that you described is a company that will fail. If everyone is afraid, you will not be productive. I have worked at places with the same level of fear and paranoia, and in the end the company either crashed or had the law shut them down (or both). Such environments are very toxic.
Of course I work in engineering. Engineers are the hardest to manage, and when we tell jokes 98% of the population don't understand it.
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