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A Tale of Two Cuomos
Catholic Answers ^ | January 22, 2014 | Todd Aglialoro

Posted on 01/23/2014 1:25:35 PM PST by NYer

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo made news last week when during a radio interview he said “extreme conservatives” have “no place” in the Empire State. Who are these people? Among others, he said, those who are “right to life” or “anti-gay.”

Later he tried to walk back this naked and nasty bit of intolerance, reassuring us that those who are “anti-choice” (one presumes he got a tongue-lashing from NARAL for saying “right to life” the first time) could stay in New York after all. But that bell, as the saying goes, can’t be un-rung.

Catholics, of course, are “right to life” inasmuch as they’re Catholics. And although “anti-gay,” like “anti-choice,” is a vague and tendentious expression, today it comprises those who oppose the redefinition of marriage to include same-sex couples. Catholics aren’t “anti-gay” in the sense of bearing animus towards persons with same-sex attraction—or shouldn’t be, anyway—but if they assent to the teaching of their religion, which asserts a natural and non-negotiable purpose to the body, to sex, and to marriage, they must wear that label, too.

Conclusion? The Catholic governor of one of our most populous and influential states, a rising star in his party and future national-stage player, has declared that Catholics who are Catholic do not meet the citizenship test.

It’s sad, but also fitting, that Cuomo should be the son of Mario Cuomo, the Catholic former NY governor and presidential candidate who, in an infamous speech at Notre Dame in 1984, blazed a false trail of conscience for politicians (and by extension, voters) who claim to be personally pro-life but publicly pro-abortion. In it he applied to abortion the principle that JFK had established two decades earlier when he promised that, because of his “absolute” separation of Church and state, his Catholicism would not inform his politics. In this brilliant and elegant piece of rhetoric Cuomo anticipates, echoes, or invents most of the now-familiar tropes of Catholic pro-abortion politics:

• That despite his personal acceptance of Church teaching on abortion and his belief that human life is due “reverence,” he cannot force these “religious values” on a pluralistic society.

• That to be pro-life is every bit as much about opposing nuclear weapons (hey, it was the ‘80s), world hunger, and unemployment as it is about stopping abortion.

• That an effective pro-life strategy must focus on diminishing abortion’s root causes, and on improving social welfare, rather than on pro-natal legislation.

• That the Church’s historical speculations about the inception of human life in the womb may provide Catholics mental wiggle room for prudential judgments about abortion policy.

• That the “complexity” of the abortion issue forces us to eschew absolute judgments and solutions. (It’s above all our pay grades.)

Cuomo concluded by observing that American Catholics had left the “ghetto” (he doesn’t reference Kennedy, but the connection is clear) and that a challenge now lay before them:

The Catholic Church has come of age in America. . . . This newfound status is both an opportunity and a temptation. If we choose, we can give in to the temptation to become more and more assimilated into a larger, blander culture, abandoning the practice of the specific values that made us different, worshipping whatever gods the marketplace has to sell while we seek to rationalize our own laxity by urging the political system to legislate on others a morality we no longer practice ourselves.

Or we can remember where we come from, the journey of two millennia, clinging to our personal faith, to its insistence on constancy and service and on hope.

Here Cuomo warns, with florid language that masks his illogic, that for Catholics to fail to keep their faith “personal” (by imposing it politically through pro-life laws) would represent a selling-out to the world, substituting a tarnished and legalistic public morality for the pure (and purely internal) observance of God’s laws “in our hearts and minds.” The end result of this failure would be “assimilation” and loss of identity.

Now flash forward thirty years. Mario Cuomo got his wish. Catholics did not (or failed to) impose on larger society their personal religious beliefs about abortion. The red herrings he espoused—the seamless garment, the “root cause” argument, the supremacy of personal conscience—have become dicta. By his prediction, American Catholics should today be a “light to the nation . . . leading people to truth by love.”

So what has come to pass?

Our president is the most foursquare pro-abortion occupant of the White House ever. His vice-president, the Catholic Joe Biden, shows everyone how far Catholics have come out of the ghetto with an unimpeachable history of carrying water for the abortion lobby. The most powerful woman in Congress, the Catholic Nancy Pelosi, cites St. Augustine to justify her abortion advocacy. Our secretary of state, the Catholic John Kerry, references the Bible to justify his. The Catholic Kathleen Sebelius, secretary of health and human services, spearheads the government’s effort to coerce Catholics and Catholic institutions into moral cooperation with evil.

We got our assimilation, all right; the disease was mistaken for the cure.

And then there’s Andrew Cuomo, truly his father’s spiritual as well as physical son, taking Mario’s ideas to their next logical step. Our "light to the nation" is no longer welcome in New York.

Our Lady of Guadalupe, patroness of the Americas and the unborn, pray for us.


TOPICS: Catholic; History; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; andrewcuomo; antifa; civility; cuomo; cynthianixon; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; ericschneiderman; genderdysphoria; homosexualagenda; newyork; newyorkcity; prolife

1 posted on 01/23/2014 1:25:35 PM PST by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 01/23/2014 1:25:53 PM PST by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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To: NYer

Not real sure he is a “practicing catholic” but am pretty sure he was raised as one. He lives with a woman whom he is not married to (yes, an old fashioned notion but a good one, nevertheless), he’s pro-homo, anti-life, and very intolerant of other views...
Yet, not a peep from Cardinal Dolan or any other leaders of the Church...
Very sad state of the Church in America.


3 posted on 01/23/2014 1:30:58 PM PST by matginzac
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To: NYer

While liberals claim to be tolerant, there is a strong totalitarian streak within liberalism. And we see it here. You have to be in favor of abortion, homosexual marriage, and gun control in these examples. If you deviate from the liberal positions, then you have no place in New York. Doesn’t that strike one as being intolerant of opposing points of view?

Can you imagine if a Republican governor of some state had said that those who are in favor of homosexual marriage and abortion should leave his state????


4 posted on 01/23/2014 1:39:08 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego (Interesting)
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To: NYer

Still waiting for the Catholic Church to excommunicate this soul-less, perverted punk. Waiting ... still waiting ... I hear crickets ... waiting ...


5 posted on 01/23/2014 1:45:16 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven
Still waiting for the Catholic Church to excommunicate this soul-less, perverted punk. Waiting ... still waiting ... I hear crickets ... waiting ...

By his actions, Andrew Cuomo has excommunicated himself. If you are waiting for some sort of public announcement, you will be hearing crickets forever. Here is a List of people excommunicated by the Roman Catholic Church, beginning in the 1st century. You will notice that the majority of them are members of a religious community.

6 posted on 01/23/2014 2:23:36 PM PST by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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To: NYer

But does Andrew know this?


7 posted on 01/23/2014 3:19:16 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: matginzac

Two Capos.


8 posted on 01/23/2014 3:40:55 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Would you believe two Fredos?


9 posted on 01/23/2014 4:10:36 PM PST by RichInOC (2013-14 Tiber Swim Team)
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To: NYer
Someone should start a formal campaign to try to get millions of practicing Catholics to contact various people and organizations, such as some of the more courageous Bishops like Archbishop Chaput of Philadelphia, Archbishop Lori of Baltimore, the USCCB, the Vatican, Cardinal Burke, EWTN, the prominent personalities seen on EWTN and heard in Catholic radio, etc., and point out the disgraceful lack of at least some kind of a public response by Cardinal Dolan (and the other New York Bishops) following the very public attacks (by both the governor or New York and now the Mayor of New York City) on the Catholic Church and her sacred beliefs about the sanctity of life and the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony, as well as the real dangers of people committing the mortal sins of homosexual behaviors (which are clearly condemned in both the Bible and the Catechism of the Catholic Church), and the deliberate murders of innocent babies.

Dolan's silence is really starting to inflict grave harm on the Church, his fellow Catholics, who knows how many additional unborn innocent babies who will be slaughtered because Dolan did not open his mouth to protest those atrocities, and the souls of those sinners committing those vile sins of murder and sexual perversion.

Here is some contact information for starters:

United States Conference
of Catholic Bishops
3211 Fourth Street NE
Washington DC 20017
202-541-3000

http://www.vatican.va/phome_en.htm

EWTN
5817 Old Leeds Rd.
Irondale, Al. 35210 (205) 271- 2900
viewer@ewtn.com

OFFICE OF THE ARCHBISHOP
ARCHBISHOP CHARLES J. CHAPUT, O.F.M. Cap.
Archdiocesan Pastoral Center
222 North 17th Street,
Philadelphia, PA 19103-1299
shepherd@adphila.org

Office of the Archbishop
Archbishop William E. Lori
320 Cathedral Street
Baltimore, MD 21201
Phone: 410-547-5437
Fax: 410-727-8234
archbishop@archbalt.org


10 posted on 01/23/2014 4:19:58 PM PST by Heart-Rest (Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Gal 6:7)
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To: Gamecock

Talk about a priest, a rabbi, a Buddhist walking into a bar. Aren’t they having just the time of their lives? It’s just one big joke among these people. For a while, anyway...


11 posted on 01/23/2014 4:23:20 PM PST by smvoice (There are no prizes given for defending the indefensible.)
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To: smvoice
"Talk about a priest, a rabbi, a Buddhist walking into a bar. Aren’t they having just the time of their lives? It’s just one big joke among these people. For a while, anyway..."

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Well, I wouldn't be too smug and smart-alecky there, smvoice, since the most world-famous giggler in all those photos shown above is also, of course, the most prominent Protestant in America (and, arguably, the most prominent Protestant in the whole world), the president of the United States of America, B-O.

12 posted on 01/23/2014 4:45:38 PM PST by Heart-Rest (Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Gal 6:7)
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To: Heart-Rest

You must have misunderstood my post. I WAS including Obama as one of the most disgusting people pictured. The WHOLE group. NONE withstanding.


13 posted on 01/23/2014 5:06:41 PM PST by smvoice (There are no prizes given for defending the indefensible.)
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To: smvoice
Oh, sorry then, smvoice!

(I think I misunderstood and jumped to the wrong conclusion when I saw the reference to " a priest, a rabbi, a Buddhist ".)

(Never mind then.)     :-)

14 posted on 01/23/2014 5:29:03 PM PST by Heart-Rest (Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Gal 6:7)
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To: NYer
You will notice that the majority of them are members of a religious community.
If you notice, the extremist Cuomo and his ilk belong to a community that believes in a religion called liberalism.
A community the bishops, cardinals and Church are afraid to deal with publically.
15 posted on 01/24/2014 5:50:08 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: NYer

And Cuomo knows he has the Catholic vote completely wrapped up.


16 posted on 01/24/2014 4:38:57 PM PST by Faith Presses On
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