What do you say to Homosexuals who would agree that it is about Hospitality AND gang rape BUT NOT consensual sex (especially when both partners love each other)?
The reason I ask is because I’ve heard this reasoning many times from gay friendly churches.
Also the gays would argue that Leviticus was not even written yet during the time of Sodom and Gomorrah...
Do gays think God changed his mind between the time of Sodom and the writing of Leviticus 18:22,24?
And they are correct. None of scripture was written at that time - Moses, author of the first five books, did not come along until quite a while after Sodom was destroyed. The relevance of this objection should be addressed to those that actually lived in Sodom. Oops! They're dead.
The reason I ask is because I’ve heard this reasoning many times from gay friendly churches.
I'd say that male homosex is a capital offense, Genesis 19 or no Genesis 19.
Also the gays would argue that Leviticus was not even written yet during the time of Sodom and Gomorrah...
For that matter, neither was Genesis. (That's not actually true. The Torah was written before the universe was created.)
I don't understand the problem you're having. Homosexual relations are forbidden. Why do so many people think the whole issue hangs on Genesis 19?
“What do you say to Homosexuals who would agree that it is about Hospitality AND gang rape BUT NOT consensual sex (especially when both partners love each other)?...”
Think hard about the very act that they undertake if you can bear the disgust. (Saint Paul the apostle says that such things should not even be mentioned. I bet he was talking about Sodomy. )
What they are doing is abominable because it is a lie to our fellow man and at the same time an insult to our Creator, who designed us to operate a certain way.
If an automaker built a car to operate with round tires, would it comfort you as a fellow driver to get behind another driver who found square tires to fit onto the axle of his car? Would it show respect for the automaker?
Without digging into graphic details here, what they are doing is also very unhealthy, filthy, unsanitary, endangering all those who partake.
If one finds that he desires something unnatural he must use his mind and will to discipline himself and seek to follow God’s will. Demons are involved who will influence and foster addictions. That is why intense prayer and fasting must be a part of every leader’s life. That is why people in general need to be used to hardship and selflessness. That is part of true charity, even when one’s emotions must be held at bay until they can catch up to the mind and spirit.
Read and show your friends the document “Humanae Vitae - Encyclical Letter of His Holiness Paul VI” (http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/paul_vi/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-vi_enc_25071968_humanae-vitae_en.html).
In it is found the procreative nature of chaste love, and the nature of the sexual act being inseparable from an openness to new life. That quite flies in the face of homosexuality.
Rebellion is in the wind. We must resist and draw near to God.