Posted on 07/06/2014 3:19:13 AM PDT by HarleyD
There are a few things that might need to be “re-aligned”, for lack of a better term.
1. You have to get rid of those teaching Dominionism, which is all that ‘new Jerusalem’ stuff. (D’ey’s only duh one and only!)
2. There is the fallacy, even taught among Pentecostals, that there is no need for the OT, except ‘to show where we came from, until the cross’.
3. There is the fallacy, even among Pentecostals, that the Jews have no chance of redemption, but when you look at the OT, and to ‘the letters’, it is written: ‘To the Jew FIRST, and then to the Gentile’.
4. There are too many churches that teach, (sorry) “Christ, yo’ buddy”. (How d’at to be, iffen dah woids ‘Lawd a lawds is d’ere?)
The God of the Old Testament was a lot of things, "yo' buddy" wasn't one of them...
That's how it is with many facets of modern worship, actually: it's all about having fun and feeling good. People don't want to worship God at a reverential service; they want to go to a service with rock bands and jam out like they're at a concert. They don't want to have a Bible study that covers OT historical information; it's far better to talk about familiar concepts from the New Testament because that makes for a fun social experience.
Ditto. Raised as a Catholic I’ve never noticed any paucity of Old Testament reading. Jewish Tradition is also referenced very frequently.
Good point...... And may I add that is the case also in most evangelical bible-based Protestant churches. For instance in our presbyterian PCA church it is considered true that to properly study the New Testiment we MUST use the references in the Old Testiment for understanding in the full context.
That's called a concordance and is found in many good study bibles such as the "New American Standard". It is very handy to have .... Actually essential .
As a child I thought (mistakenly) that the Old Testament God was a cruel and angry God, and that the New Testament portrayed a kind a loving God.
Little did I know at that time how much the Gospel writers and Jesus used the Old Testament in their teachings. Especially Matthew. But all have some quotes.
“4. Dispensationalism: Although unintended, the dispensational division of Scripture into different eras tends to relegate the Old Testament to a minor role in the life of the Church, and of the individual Christian.”
Dispensational theology simply teaches that all the a scripture is for us, but it isn’t all about us.
The best verse-by-verse exposition of the OT I’ve ever heard is from dispensationalists.
Actually, I think he's referring to the cross reference index with regard to that "middle column" he refers to. The concordance is generally in the back.
The first Bible Study I taught was Exodus. It seemed easy because there was so much history in it.
When it came to teaching Isaiah, though, I had to do a lot more studying and preparation.
Genesis was fairly easy.
So were the Psalms — a two part series.
Women of the Old Testament opened my mind to life in those days.
In other words, I have learned so much from the Old Testament.
I would like to teach Ezekiel and Daniel for I think they tie into the Book of Revelation, which I have taught.
The Early catholic Church had the same Old testament as Jews from 70—90 AD
Catholic church still has the same old testament today!
Jesus didn’t have the New Testament. He lived the Old Testament. I also wonder about His ruling of the world as King of Kings, which laws will be enacted. The Old Testament law is the Father’s love for His children. My favorite book- Leviticus. Can’t read the New without the Old. Maybe we should change the name “Old.” The Word is living and timeless.
All my would-be Christian life was unsatisfactory until I visited synagogue and learned Torah and other Jewish literature over the year I spent there.
Thank God.
I’d recommend the experience to any committed Christian.
Without reading the Old Testament, it’s very hard to understand what Jesus and the New Testament writers are talking about. It’s like trying read modern English literature without being aware of Shakespeare.
My son and I observed that Isaiah is like “Hamlet”: the book that contains at least 50% of everyone’s quotations and imagery. Jeremiah is “Julius Caesar,” with the dirty political intrigue. Ezekiel is “The Tempest,” where you can’t really be sure what’s going on, but it’s cool.
The love of the Father to His children of Israel is missed by many. Today, even more so with the degradation of men and lack of fathers. Satan hates good fathers, because they are representative of the Father. The Pentateuch came to me as a law of love once I became a parent. I would not want anyone else but “Abba” being my buddy.
His choice of the tiny nation was not only because of their tenacity in keeping the copy of His Law intact for thousands of years but to glorify His Name through them and bring the knowledge of His love for all nations culminated in the life of His Son. Jesus did not come to abolish the Law but to fulfill it. The laws prophesying His life, the sacrifices, etc., were fulfilled, but the laws concerning how we are to live, every one still stands.
This separation of meaning behind each Law will probably be revealed during His reign on earth. Will murderers who are unrepentant live on death row? I think not. Will adulterers live? I think not. Accountability is the greatest means of prevention. If you think you can get away with breaking the law, you will. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom [and IMHO love, joy, and peace].
Dear null and void,
As to: “4. There are too many churches that teach, (sorry) “Christ, yo’ buddy”.
The God of the Old Testament was a lot of things, “yo’ buddy” wasn’t one of them...”
Why do you think I said that? Because there ARE churches teaching that Christ is a buddy.
Yes.
I always tell people who say “well that’s just the Old Testament” do you believe God is schizophrenic? He says something in the Old Testament and then changes his mind and says something different in the New Testament? Even Jesus said that the old laws were still valid. God does not change his mind. Whatever he says is forever.
I’m not disagreeing with you, I intended to emphasize your point, not contest it.
Sorry I wasn’t clear on that.
Genesis was fairly easy.
Genesis is not easy. There's a lot going on (even if you're not into nephelim-obsessed nuttiness).
For instance, I've been through Genesis studies where it was walked through, a bare history. We never discussed anything the New Testament said about the significance of Abraham.
I would like to teach Ezekiel and Daniel for I think they tie into the Book of Revelation, which I have taught.
The more you read the prophets, the more you'll get out of the Apocalypse.
Every time I go through Revelation, I'm impressed by how much John drew from the Old Testament, esp. the prophets. It's almost like he's providing an authoritative NT commentary on the prophets.
Ezekiel is “The Tempest,” where you can’t really be sure what’s going on, but it’s cool.
And Zechariah?
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