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So Much Better Now” Are you Sure?
Christian Communicators Worldwide ^ | Jim Elliff

Posted on 03/17/2015 1:17:07 PM PDT by RnMomof7

“So Much Better Now” Are you Sure?


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The pain has been excruciating, the hours and weeks arduous. The cost to the spouse and family who love her has been gladly expended, but jobs and daily responsibilities will necessarily decrease the hours for the daily vigil now. Added to it all of this is the treatment cost itself, sending up in smoke years of saving.

“Mother is so ill,” they say to concerned friends. “We know it will be such a relief for her when she dies.”

What? So much better when she dies? Not if she does not know Christ.

The unconverted dying loved one isn’t going to be relieved upon death. I wish it could be otherwise, but Christ made no promises for future comfort to those who die without believing in Him.

The deathbed is better than the eternal pain of hell. No hope exists beyond the point of death. Regardless of the love and mercy of God extended to your loved one for all these years, mercy will then end. The door is shut to hope forever.

I know that saying such things seems cruel, but it isn’t meant that way. It is meant to extend to you and to your loved one an urgent message that you must believe in Christ while there is opportunity. If there is breath, and ability to think, there is time.

I am not attempting to answer the difficult question concerning those who die as babies or those who die having never had mental ability. I leave these difficulty questions to God and the discussion of them to another time. But for those who passively or adamantly reject following God and Christ, physical death without having believed inevitably leads to something far worse.

Now do you believe in Christ? Most believe in the Christ of their imagination rather than the Christ of revelation. It is Jesus himself who said so much about hell for those who reject Him. Is this the Jesus you can believe in and can live for?

Christ opens the door to life widely to any who wish to come to him, but shuts the door to hell tightly behind any who die having not done so. Your dying loved one or friend will not be better unless this reality is grasped. Nor will you. May God help us all to see this before it is too late.

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For more on how to believe in Christ, listen to Pursuing God, A Seeker’s Guide at www.WaytoGod.org.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; Mainline Protestant
KEYWORDS: death; eternity; hell; judgement

1 posted on 03/17/2015 1:17:07 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; CynicalBear; daniel1212; Gamecock; HossB86; Iscool; ...
I think about this all the time.. people saying "she is in a better place"
" MOM would not want to live like this"...and so on.. and chances are they are burning in hell because they never understood the holiness of God and the sinfulness of men
2 posted on 03/17/2015 1:19:42 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

I think it is a way of comforting themselves after the loss of a loved one. To allow your mind to envision your mom, dad, whoever suffering in hell would be so terrible that you could not function in life.


3 posted on 03/17/2015 1:26:36 PM PDT by NorthstarMom
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To: NorthstarMom
I think it is a way of comforting themselves after the loss of a loved one.

Of course it is.

To allow your mind to envision your mom, dad, whoever suffering in hell would be so terrible that you could not function in life.

So the question is this: Are you a Christian? If so do you really believe what Scripture teaches about final judgment?

4 posted on 03/17/2015 1:41:15 PM PDT by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Infantry officer.)
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To: NorthstarMom

Or they are totally material/atheist and think that she is nowhere other than the ground.


5 posted on 03/17/2015 1:50:27 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: RnMomof7

It is interesting isn’t it? Many deny Christ or ignore Him all their life then claim heaven and bliss when one of their loved ones dies. It breaks my heart when I know someone has died without having dedicated their lives to Christ.


6 posted on 03/17/2015 1:53:55 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Gamecock
>>So the question is this: Are you a Christian? If so do you really believe what Scripture teaches about final judgment?<<

I've had discussions with some on these threads who claim to be Christian yet deny the eternal suffering in hell.

7 posted on 03/17/2015 1:55:27 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: RnMomof7
Not if she does not know Christ.

Not if she does knows a FALSE Christ; either!

8 posted on 03/17/2015 2:03:29 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CynicalBear

same here.


9 posted on 03/17/2015 2:24:05 PM PDT by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Infantry officer.)
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To: RnMomof7
Added to it all of this is the treatment cost itself, sending up in smoke years of saving.

The purpose of dying now seems to be to transfer all your wealth to the health care "system" before you have a chance to give it to your kids.

10 posted on 03/17/2015 2:46:13 PM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: RnMomof7
FWIW, I called an old friend last week who gave me my first job in real estate. I knew he was dying, because he had told me at a lunch we had together a couple months earlier.

His voice was very weak on the phone and he told me I don't have much time.

I immediately told him, "hold onto Jesus, everything will be okay".

Later I thought of a whole bunch of better things to say, but that was what the Holy Spirit gave me in the moment.

He responded, I know Him and I will.

His son called me on Sunday to tell me he had died. He then said, "it was so great that you called. I was there and you were on the speaker and everyone heard you". His son had been reading the book of Romans to him daily and I'm sure some of the unsaved family thought it was a bit much. Thankfully, my business mentor came to know the Lord a long time ago.

11 posted on 03/17/2015 3:55:54 PM PDT by wmfights
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To: CynicalBear
I've had discussions with some on these threads who claim to be Christian yet deny the eternal suffering in hell.

Some deny it because they have a sneakin' hunch that they have friends and family there...

12 posted on 03/17/2015 4:05:40 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool
I've had discussions with some on these threads who claim to be Christian yet deny the eternal suffering in hell.

Some deny it because they have a sneakin' hunch that they have friends and family there...

Either that, or they have s sneakin' hunch that THEY will end up there too.

13 posted on 03/17/2015 4:32:21 PM PDT by Mark17 (Calvary's love has never faltered, all it's wonder still remains. Souls still take eternal passage)
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To: Elsie
Not if she does knows a FALSE Christ; either!

bingo

14 posted on 03/17/2015 6:21:28 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Iscool
Many will claim christ..the christ they like that will let them clean themselves up and then be worthy to enter heaven...

They have no understanding that their holiest prayer is sin..

15 posted on 03/17/2015 6:25:23 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

Thank you for posting this. People need to hear this often. It should be shouted at every funeral.

My beloved husband died suddenly last June. He knew and loved the Lord. He was not called to have a very vocal faith (that would be me). He was not vocal about any of his feelings. His was a very quiet faith, lived out in his life.

What drives me nuts is when people try to comfort me and tell me that he is in a better place. I want to scream at them and ask them how do they know that if they who were very close know he is in the Lord’s presence. I want to shake them and tell them that just because someone you know died and they weren’t a murderer does not mean that they are with the Lord. I think these people are just trying to comfort themselves by thinking and saying this.

Of course, I don’t say “how do YOU know he is in a better place”, unless I know they are a believer in the real biblical Jesus. And then, we comfort each other with the knowledge. I know the others don’t know what to say. What do you say to a new widow? I know they think they are trying to comfort me. It doesn’t. My comfort and my peace and my joy lie solely in the Lord Jesus. But I think they are also trying to comfort and convince themselves that God is not perfectly just and perfectly righteous and only through Jesus can we be forever in a better place. I just try to say that I know where He is because He trusted Jesus to pay for his sins.


16 posted on 03/18/2015 5:29:18 AM PDT by lupie
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To: lupie

Thinking of you sister....

I had unsaved parents, if I say I believe they are in hell, unless someone presented the gospel to them on their death bed, people think I am cold.. but the truth is I have no expectation of seeing them in heaven..but what I know is I will not care ...Heaven is all about God , and His glory , His holiness ...for eternity

I recently lost a beloved sister in law ...she was a wonderful woman as the world calls wonderful..mass every day, ‘eucharistic minister , “corporal works of mercy”...the pillar of our family

When the priest announced at her funeral mass that the full church could “pray to her” because she was already in heaven “ I wanted to cry.. this loved lady is burning in hell unless someone presented Christ to her on her death bed

The other side of her life was a hard drinking, blaspheming mouth a sinner in need of a Savior.. her good works counted for nothing

So when I saw this she came to my mind ...

I loved this lady ... and grieved I never had the oportunity before she died..


17 posted on 03/18/2015 6:34:59 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
I had unsaved parents, if I say I believe they are in hell, unless someone presented the gospel to them on their death bed, people think I am cold.. but the truth is I have no expectation of seeing them in heaven..but what I know is I will not care ...Heaven is all about God , and His glory , His holiness ...for eternity

Amen. We will not care, for we will see Him as He is in His perfect justice and righteousness and grace. How wonderful that will be.

18 posted on 03/18/2015 12:32:12 PM PDT by lupie
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