I’m a Presbyterian Minister Who Doesn’t Believe in God

Patheos ^ | March 17, 2015 | John Shuck

[Inyo-Mono]

- Human consciousness is the result of natural selection, so there’s no afterlife

Wrong, wrong, wrong. May God have mercy on his soul.

[A_perfect_lady]

Either you believe that Christ was who he said he was--or you have to believe that he was a demon or perhaps a raving lunatic. There is no middle ground.

Actually, there is another option: he was a politician who really believed he could be the next King of Israel. That he could unite the Jews and rally them to free themselves of Roman rule.

[Artcore]

I was an Elder in the PCUSA. Left in 92 when our Pastor (Dallas Theology Seminary) retired. He was a very good man who refused to tow the PCUSA PC line. About 1/2 of the congregation left at the same time. We all went to a PCA church across town.
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Like you, we had a good Pastor, but an increasingly liberal congregation. I think he was contemplating leaving...maybe still is.

Although we’re attending a Southern Baptist Congregation now, my wife and I both like the PCA very much.

The Bible warned us about the Episcopal, Methodist, PCUSA and other lukewarm Churches and their eventual falling away from the truth.

[Bob434]

[[“...it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment...” Hebews 9:27. You will soon see the reality of God.]]

Yes but how many people will he take down to he4ll with him and his ‘God doesn’t exist’ ideology?

[Resettozero]

Actually, there is another option: he was a politician who really believed he could be the next King of Israel. That he could unite the Jews and rally them to free themselves of Roman rule.

Incorrect guess. When He saw the followers were going to make Him a ruler by force, he escaped from them and went a different direction. He was sent by the Father to accomplish what He finished, not to be a politician.

Or were you just joshin' us?

[Heart-Rest]

"He and his church have been busy pushing for marriage equality."
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From your link and the original post link:

 

He's an unbelieving, LetsBeQueerian minister nihilist-er.

[InMemoriam]

This reminds me of Lincoln’s illustration:

“If you call a tail a leg, how many legs has a dog?”

“Four. Calling a tail a leg don’t make it a leg.”

[fwdude]

Not surprisingly, a lot of mainline “Christian” ministers (dis)believe exactly this way.

[onedoug]

Hyam Macoby, “Revolution In Judea: Jesus And The Jewish Resistance”

There is a Jewish alternative.

[Heart-Rest]

(Should have pinged you too for “John Shuck” post #46.)

[PAR35]

Why hasn’t this guy gotten elected moderator of the PCUSA? He’s even more qualified than some of the other minions of Satan that they’ve elected.

[Steve_Seattle]

"But I don’t appreciate being told that I’m not truly a Christian."

I don't give a damn what he doesn't appreciate. No matter what you think about Jesus - God, prophet, Messiah, angel, holy man - belief in God was absolutely central to his massage. You cannot be a disciple of Jesus - in any sense - and not believe in God. This guy is a fraud.

[American Constitutionalist]

These types will be the ones who help usher in the Anti-Christ, the “ Tares “ that Jesus Christ told us about.

But God is not about religion, but a relationship with his son Jesus Christ.

In that regard, religion is man’s way to God, and Jesus Christ is God’s only way, only truth, and life to God, no other way but in Christ.

[vpintheak]

He, “Doesn’t appreciate not being called a Christian.” What a poor pathetic man.

[Steve_Seattle]

massage s/b message, of course. I hate it when my typos are actually a real word, so spell check doesn’t catch them.

[a fool in paradise]

“Belief-less Christianity is thriving right now, even as other forms of the faith are falling away rapidly. Many liberal or progressive Christians have already let go or de-emphasized belief in Heaven, that the Bible is literally true, that Jesus is supernatural, and that Christianity is the only way. Yet they still practice what they call Christianity. Instead of traditional beliefs, they emphasize social justice, personal integrity and resilience, and building community. The cultural artifacts serve as resources.”

And here we aren’t supposed to question Democrat Christians’ faith. There is no faith. They denounce such “superstition”.

[Resettozero]

I’ll examine this tomorrow maybe. In the meantime, I’m going with the Holy Bible’s account of what He intended to do.

Judas Iscariot betrayed Him when JI became convinced by Satan that Jesus was failing His mission, in Judas’ estimation. Judas seems to have believed that Jesus was to become King in Jerusalem during that time he first appeared as Son of man.

[Steve_Seattle]

I knew a guy in college who was an atheist, but who said he wanted to become a Christian minister. I don’t know if he ever followed through on that. But you know how the Left works - they insinuate their way into everything and co-opt it, like termites.

[Rinnwald]

Seems like the reasonable next step in the apostate descent of PCUSA and liberal “Christian” theology in general. “Christians” without belief in Christ, living life separated from the scriptures, and general weakening of faith.

Satan’s going to make the falling away seem very “reasonable”.

[a fool in paradise]

Evangelical atheism is a ‘thing’. So much for it not being a religion. They seek to convert others to their way of thinking, even those who mistakenly believe they are attending a church that worships God.