Is everything you know about 2nd Coming wrong? [pre-tribulation rapture]

WND ^ | August 22, 2015 | Richardson: Events of next 5 years 'will utterly destroy' pre-trib rapture doctrine

[markomalley]

I thought it was interesting because I was under the impression that pre-tribulation rapture (ala John Nelson Darby) was the default position among evangelicals.

[GraceG]

I think rapture myths are being used to control gullible well meaning christians to not taking action. Why change things if god is gonna teleport you to heaven like scotty in star trek.

[Tuscaloosa Goldfinch]

It is kind of the default position. I wish it were true, but what about the Christians in Iraq being slaughtered -we tend to think as Americans we won’t face the tribulation or persecution but historically believers have faced terrible trials.

[free_life]

Pre-trib rapture doctrine never made sense according to scriptures. Never could figure out why so many believe it.

[huldah1776]

Grew up believing what I was taught. Went to college and started reading the Bible and studying on my own. Been a post-tribber for 39 years. Occam’s razor and simply reading the text.

[BwanaNdege]

Hal Lindsey taught that, while his interpretation of Scripture led him to be “Pre-Trib”, many Godly and knowledgeable Christian teachers were “Mid-Trib” and some even “Post-Trib”.

I see Scriptures which support various interpretations. Personally, I lean toward Mid-Trib, deeming it better to be prepared rather than have a rude awakening. If I’m wrong and Pre-trib is correct, then it will be a pleasant surprise.

God’s goal for us in NOT a cushy life; it is to conform us to the image of Christ. He will do what is best for us, not that which is easiest for us.

[taterjay]

We assume the rapture occurs out of the blue when all is good. The question for me the past few years is how bad could it be when and if it occurs. There could be unprecedented persecution before the rapture and then really unprecedented persecution afterwards. The economy could be a wreck before the rapture and sin could be rampant before the rapture.

[tumblindice]

My church was evangelical, literalist, full immersion, “don’t add or take away”, no instruments, bareback pews ...
But I don’t remember being taught or Bible study with any of this rapture/tribulation/holy roller stuff.

[Wilhelm Tell]

Darby’s system has taken over many churches. It misleads people into thinking they will find Christ in secret “Bible codes” and in numerology tricks.

[huldah1776]

Left Behind or Led Astray movie trailer...

http://www.leftbehindorledastray.com/left-behind-or-led-astray-trailer/

[ully2]

That and the coming of the 12th I’m am. These were ideas from the dark ages.

[itsahoot]

Kent Hovind has just put up a whole series on his version of post-trib on his youtube channel, makes a lot of sense.

[SisterK]

Pre-tribulation is the default position.
Unfortunately.
Darby also gave us the sloppy 70 week “gap theory”.

[donna]

Hal Lindsey taught that, while his interpretation of Scripture led him to be “Pre-Trib”, many Godly and knowledgeable Christian teachers were “Mid-Trib” and some even “Post-Trib”.

Yes, that's right. I haven't chosen which one to believe.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

Must recheck my booklets 88 REASONS WHY THE RAPTURE WILL BE IN 1988!

Bummer! I have been left behind with all the others!

[Smittie]

We face human persecution and slaughter, but The Tribulation is God’s wrath, which if you’re a christian you have been saved from;which is why I believe in a pretrib rapture.

[A Formerly Proud Canadian]

Only three more years to go! ;-) 😇 ;-)

[spetznaz]

A very important point. A lot of pre-tribulation doctrine is very America-centric. Why? Because it is largely in the US that Christians do not face real persecution. By 'real' I am not talking about a 'war on Christmas' or bakers getting sued for not making a cake for a gay couple. By real I mean a real chance of getting killed for your faith ....that is the default position for Christians in some countries, and ranges from a risk of getting arrested and harassed in places like China to getting thrown in prison in places like Iran to getting killed (in horrible ways) in places like Syria. In Egypt, Orthodox Christians will often tattoo a small cross on the gap between their thumb and index finger. Why? So that, even under pain of death, they can never be able to deny their savior.

My point?

Christians in several countries around the world are already going through the tribulation, and it has gotten significantly worse for those in the Middle East and North Africa in the last four years. Their men are killed. Their women raped. Their children sold into slavery. Some are given a choice to convert to Islam (and they refuse and get matured for Christ), most just get directly slaughtered.

Which makes me wonder what doctrine is this that makes American Christians believe that their lot is to magically vanish, leaving behind empty clothes, dental fillings and jewelery, when it is obvious around the world that other Christians are not going through a Star Trek experience.

I am not willing to go as far as saying that American Christians are getting deceived, but I will most definitely say that a large number will get a very nasty surprise.

[spetznaz]

Please see my post 18. Christians around the world are already going through major tribulations. Biblical level tribulations. I am confused as to what makes some Christians think they will be exempt.

[spetznaz]

Get matured for Christ = get matyred for Christ.